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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfan320 View Post
    This from the Sundeck. Really makes no sense at all unless it would be just to play in LOU.

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    It makes SOME sense if Capps is part of a package sending reliever(s) from Cincy to Minny for Capps and Span and/or Willingham, otherwise, as just Capps it makes no sense at all

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Is he physically sound? I had the same thought as one responder - can another team talk to a player unless it is possibly a 72-hour negotiation window? Capps is due about $2.25M for the rest of the year with a $6M option next year (and a $250K buyout). I don't think there's alot to this unless the Reds are going to be big time deals - ie- Chapman to the rotation and Bailey or Leake in a deal for an impact bat- and I don't see that happening. If it did occur, I'd expect a deal that included Spann.

    Semi-interesting factoid: Matt's middle name is Dicus.
    The Reds absolutely could not have spoken to him. The windows where such a conversation is permitted is only after a trade has been agreed to pending action on the player's part. I'd suggest this is bogus regarding the Red having spoken to him as that would clearly be tampering.
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    On MLBTraderumor's Live Chat just now, someone asked where Juan Pierre might be playing come the end of the month. He wrote

    I do think the Reds make some sense. The Reds might also check in with Boston on guys like Nava and Sweeney given Boston's upcoming roster crunch. Cincy could use a lefty hitting outfielder to limit Sutton's exposure against right-handed pitching.

    I then asked what he meant by Sutton and he gave OPS stats and said a player could help out with that. I then asked who "Sutton" was and he corrected him self, noting he meant Stubbs.
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Should we have a separate thread for reporting rumors without discussion akin to our spring training thread?

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Should we have a separate thread for reporting rumors without discussion akin to our spring training thread?
    I don't think so. This one seems to be flowing well.

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    On MLBTraderumor's Live Chat just now, someone asked where Juan Pierre might be playing come the end of the month. He wrote

    I do think the Reds make some sense. The Reds might also check in with Boston on guys like Nava and Sweeney given Boston's upcoming roster crunch. Cincy could use a lefty hitting outfielder to limit Sutton's exposure against right-handed pitching.

    I then asked what he meant by Sutton and he gave OPS stats and said a player could help out with that. I then asked who "Sutton" was and he corrected him self, noting he meant Stubbs.
    He finished the chat with this, "(My bad re. Sutton-Stubbs, btw)".
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    The Reds absolutely could not have spoken to him. The windows where such a conversation is permitted is only after a trade has been agreed to pending action on the player's part. I'd suggest this is bogus regarding the Red having spoken to him as that would clearly be tampering.
    They actually could have if the Twins gave written permission. In the MLR, teams are forbidden from tampering but any club can waive this rule by simply writing MLB allowing for contract discussions to take place.

    So theoretically, if the Reds or any club wanted to make a trade on the condition they worked out a contract prior to execution, they could do so if the club gives permission.

    I'm not saying I believe this rumor, but it's not impossible.
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    I don't really believe the Capps rumor - no way he'd talk to a stranger about something like that in mid season anyway, even if permission was given.

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    And the logistics make no sense either. Why would Capps have been in Huntsville this afternoon to catch a flight? He pitched for Ft. Myers on Monday night, and he's supposed to pitch for them in Clearwater tonight.

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    I don't understand why anyone would want Willingham over Upton, who is younger and more productive. The only sound argument I have heard so far might be money -- but how do people know for sure that Bob is done spending? I don't recall reading him say anywhere that "that's it, we're done."
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    And the logistics make no sense either. Why would Capps have been in Huntsville this afternoon to catch a flight? He pitched for Ft. Myers on Monday night, and he's supposed to pitch for them in Clearwater tonight.
    That, and Minnesota's AA affiliate doesn't even play in the Southern League.
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I don't understand why anyone would want Willingham over Upton, who is younger and more productive. The only sound argument I have heard so far might be money -- but how do people know for sure that Bob is done spending? I don't recall reading him say anywhere that "that's it, we're done."
    I'm assuming we'd have to give up our top pitching prospects for Upton...... not as much for Willingham.

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Meh. Reds aren't trading anyone.

    I don't know anyone who directly works for the Reds. But I have a friend of a friend thing going where they get info from someone who works for the Reds. Basically his word is that he doesn't see Bob adding payroll. Nor does he think Bob will part with Hamilton, Cingrani or Corcino. Apparently Bob doesn't like trading his gold prospects. This snitch really thinks they have nothing to deal and won't deal the golden ones, and that they can't add payroll.

    But then again, the snitch/source really had nothing concrete, just generalizations. When asked about the Matt Capps rumor, he didn't know anything about it. But surmised that maybe Chapman gets moved into the rotation, Capps gets added to close, and Leake or Bailey get dealt since Bob doesn't want to trade Hamilton, Corcino, or Cingrani.

    Take it for what it's worth. Nothing concrete there, just some guessing on his part.
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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Meh. Reds aren't trading anyone.

    I don't know anyone who directly works for the Reds. But I have a friend of a friend thing going where they get info from someone who works for the Reds. Basically his word is that he doesn't see Bob adding payroll. Nor does he think Bob will part with Hamilton, Cingrani or Corcino. Apparently Bob doesn't like trading his gold prospects. This snitch really thinks they have nothing to deal and won't deal the golden ones, and that they can't add payroll.

    But then again, the snitch/source really had nothing concrete, just generalizations. When asked about the Matt Capps rumor, he didn't know anything about it. But surmised that maybe Chapman gets moved into the rotation, Capps gets added to close, and Leake or Bailey get dealt since Bob doesn't want to trade Hamilton, Corcino, or Cingrani.

    Take it for what it's worth. Nothing concrete there, just some guessing on his part.
    Why is he so against trading Cingrani who is merely our 10th-best prospect?

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    Re: Reds Trade Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Meh. Reds aren't trading anyone.

    I don't know anyone who directly works for the Reds. But I have a friend of a friend thing going where they get info from someone who works for the Reds. Basically his word is that he doesn't see Bob adding payroll. Nor does he think Bob will part with Hamilton, Cingrani or Corcino. Apparently Bob doesn't like trading his gold prospects. This snitch really thinks they have nothing to deal and won't deal the golden ones, and that they can't add payroll.

    But then again, the snitch/source really had nothing concrete, just generalizations. When asked about the Matt Capps rumor, he didn't know anything about it. But surmised that maybe Chapman gets moved into the rotation, Capps gets added to close, and Leake or Bailey get dealt since Bob doesn't want to trade Hamilton, Corcino, or Cingrani.

    Take it for what it's worth. Nothing concrete there, just some guessing on his part.

    Bob traded a number of top prospects last off-season.

    Reds will make a move, I have no doubt. May not be for a Justin Upton, but the needs are too glaring.


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