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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Where does it rank in minor league baseball? In the Southern League? In AAA/ International League?

    (I'd look but can't find where you're getting ground ball rates from.)
    I don't know where it ranks, but it will be near the bottom. That simply is a poor rate. You aren't really going to be able to look up how far down it is because firstinning.com doesn't have a leaderboard that is sortable all that far down.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    I'll do the research-- that's part of the fun.

    It'll take a few hours, though.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Hoover's overall professional GB rate-- including the 18 IP with Cincinnati this year-- is around 38%. (He's had a ton of really small IP lines from various leagues making this a lot harder than it should be. His three longest stints in one place are, not so coincidentally, the places where he's shown the highest GB rates-- at 47%, 42%, and 31%. The 31% GB rate came from only 81 IP though.)

    That's about even with the following major league starters:
    Bruce Chen
    Johan Santana
    Colby Lewis
    Phil Hughes
    Mike Minor
    Jake Peavy
    Matt Cain
    Ian Kennedy
    Hector Noesi
    Max Scherzer
    Wei-Yin Chen
    Jered Weaver
    Ubaldo Jimenez
    Bronson Arroyo
    Matt Moore
    Dan Haren
    Jason Vargas
    Tommy Milone
    Jeremy Hellickson
    Aaron Harang
    James McDonald
    Josh Beckett
    Justin Verlander

    and the following closers:
    Rafael Soriano
    Rafael Betancourt
    Ernesto Fireri
    Addison Reed
    Tyler Clippard
    Kenley Jansen
    Carlos Marmol
    Jose Valverde
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    There's something about Travieso that makes me think he's going to fly through the organization. He strikes me as having a VERY good head on his shoulders - competitive bulldog to the Nth degree, but understanding that there are a lot of things he needs to learn and willing to learn them. I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Reds uniform before he turns 21.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    I wouldn't be surprised to see him in a Reds uniform before he turns 21.
    I would. 20 is very, very young, especially for a pitcher. Nothing against Travieso, of course.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    I would. 20 is very, very young, especially for a pitcher. Nothing against Travieso, of course.
    I may have been mistaken. I thought he was still 17 which would have given him three full years in the minors before he turned 21. But his birthday is in January. So I will revise and say he'll make his debut before his 22ND birthday.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    I'd say 23...

    That way he could throw 180 innings his first year.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Like with Stephenson, I am thrilled with what's in line ahead of Travieso, and look forward to the club NOT having to rush him.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    I think a pitcher should be promoted when they are ready, doesn't really matter the age.

    You get guys like Kershaw and Cain........then you have the Jason Schmidts.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    So just out of curiousity, did Travieso actually make his debut?
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    So just out of curiousity, did Travieso actually make his debut?
    Not yet. They don't begin until 10pm out in Arizona.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Travieso so far - 1 IP, 0 hits, 0 walks, 1 K.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Travieso so far - 1 IP, 0 hits, 0 walks, 1 K.

    .....and looks like that's it for him. Box score shows Wandy Peralta in to pitch the second inning for the AZL Reds.

    Edit: More detail. His 3 outs he recorded were 2 ground outs and a K.
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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Anyone else concerned about Travieso's inability to go deep into games?

    Kidding. Nice first start for the kid. For some reason, I didn't like the pick when it was first announced (probably because of BS Mock Drafts from people like Keith Law who projected Tanner Rahier would be a first-round, but didn't have Travieso listed as a first-rounder). However, since about 10 minutes after the pick was announced until now, I absolutely love it. Nice find to get a power arm with good mechanics and a quality arsenal of pitches with the No. 14 pick.

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    Re: Nick Travieso to make first pro start Sunday, July 22nd

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Anyone else concerned about Travieso's inability to go deep into games?

    Kidding. Nice first start for the kid. For some reason, I didn't like the pick when it was first announced (probably because of BS Mock Drafts from people like Keith Law who projected Tanner Rahier would be a first-round, but didn't have Travieso listed as a first-rounder). However, since about 10 minutes after the pick was announced until now, I absolutely love it. Nice find to get a power arm with good mechanics and a quality arsenal of pitches with the No. 14 pick.
    I agree with this, though I'll admit 99.9999% of my baseball draft knowledge comes from what people say and quote on this site, so I wasn't upset so much as I was "well nobody mentioned him", however after reading up on him, I came away very impressed.

    Now, let the Reds fan in me dream a little dream and imagine that both Travieso and Stephenson become all that and a bag of chips. They sure would arrive in the majors just as Latos and Cueto hit free agency (unless the Reds extend them prior to free agency) and as Homer and Leake are getting expensive. After years of struggling to produce middle to top of the rotation starting pitchers from the draft, up thru the minors and into the ML rotation, it sure would be nice to have 2 more in that vein to replace the handful the Reds have today. Throw in the starting arms in AA right now and the Reds are going to have some real solid trading chips or replacements in the pipeline. The potential (some would suspectial) cost savings in middle to top of rotation arms these guys could be in the majors in 4-6 seasons could really help balance out Joey's large contract in terms of team payroll and the limitations Cincy faces in the current market places compared to teams like the Yankees, Red Sox & Cubs.

    The ducks certainly seem to be aligning themselves both at the majors and in the minors for a long, extended 10+ season run.


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