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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    He's not good by any metric.
    It wasn't long ago that the whole board thought Ondrusek was nails.
    "In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Cordero in

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    In fairness to Ondrusek, he does not deserve all the blame here. Ondrusek didn't throw the ball to 2B and Ondrusek didn't make a dismal throw to 3B.

    Tough crowd here tonight.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    We stole one yesterday, now we're giving one back, barring another miracle.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    This pitching staff has no room for error, even against the Astros.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    The Phillies appear to differ with that opinion.
    Because Daugherty blew some smoke? Let's not act like we know what was offered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    The two of the best lefty relievers in the world have been pitching a ton already. They can't pitch them everytime they need them.
    While you are right, Marshall was warmed up, so usage clearly wasn't an issue. Had he not been warming up, your point may have been more valid, but since he was warming up, Dusty had no issues using him.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Paul hitting for Valdez

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    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    In fairness to Ondrusek, he does not deserve all the blame here. Ondrusek didn't throw the ball to 2B and Ondrusek didn't make a dismal throw to 3B.

    Tough crowd here tonight.
    He blew the lead. He's not responsible for the third run, but he blew the lead throwing cookies to a AAA team.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    Because Daugherty blew some smoke? Let's not act like we know what was offered.
    One of the national guys just reported it today too. It's not just Daugherty that mentioned it.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Codero won't blow two in a row, but all we need is a run. Maybe we can do that.
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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    He blew the game. He's not responsible for the third run, but he blew the game throwing cookies to a AAA team.
    A tie is much better than giving up the lead run.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    I don't get the error on Ludwick. He was at the track and threw it in, seemed like the IF was out of position.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    In fairness to Ondrusek, he does not deserve all the blame here. Ondrusek didn't throw the ball to 2B and Ondrusek didn't make a dismal throw to 3B.

    Tough crowd here tonight.
    It's not Logan's fault. He is who he is. He should be put in a position to succeed. That position is the 6th inning. In no way should he pitch in the 8th inning in a two run game, or when he starts lighting himself on fire and makes it a one run game.

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    Re: 7/25/12 Reds @ Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    While you are right, Marshall was warmed up, so usage clearly wasn't an issue. Had he not been warming up, your point may have been more valid, but since he was warming up, Dusty had no issues using him.
    Doug, I am fairly certain Marshall was warming to pitch the ninth so they could rest Chapman.

    It's that Dusty didn't want to use Marshall until the 9th if he didn't absolutely have to.
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