Championships for MY teams in my lifetime:
Cincinnati Reds - 75, 76, 90
Chicago Blackhawks - 10, 13, 15
University of Kentucky - 78, 96, 98, 12
Chicago Bulls - 91, 92, 93, 96, 97, 98
“Everything that happens before Death is what counts.”
― Ray Bradbury, Something Wicked This Way Comes
It's bad, but it's not exactly the worst we've seen out of some of the major conference/state schools this year. Colorado losing to Colorado State and Cal State-Sacramento and then getting bludgeoned by a pretty average Fresno team (wasn't it 45-0 in the second quarter?!?) is much worse. Indiana losing at home to Ball State (a team WKU is favored to beat this coming weekend) is worse. Arkansas losing to UL-Monroe seemed as bad or worse, although they seem to actually have a pretty decent team.
Kentucky has no business losing to Western, but Western is a pretty solid Sun Belt squad.
Do you think Scout really puts much effort into deciding who is ranked #118 and who is ranked #95. I can't imagine they spend much time evaluating those players.
It is kind of sad that outside of a few players, I don't think there's much of a talent difference between UK and WKU, but WKU does make up for their high school recruiting deficiencies by picking up some transfers. For example, one of the DBs who was giving UK fits all night was a Florida transfer.
BTW, Western is hosting Southern Miss this weekend. Not sure why I thought they were hosting Ball U.
Last edited by Boston Red; 09-17-2012 at 01:07 PM.
I agree with Boston Red. The difference between classes #80 to #118 is likely smaller than the difference between classes #1 and #15.
Schools like UK and IU are always going to be susceptible to the smaller in-state schools unless the talent (and experience) differential is overwhelming.
The game represents a huge opportunity for the smaller school. It's probably one of the largest crowds that team will play all season and it's an opportunity to show the big school why they made a mistake in recruiting.
That said it should still be an upset when these games happen. Losing three in a row to the in state MAC school is completely embarrassing. So it could be worse UK.
I don't really follow recruiting outside of checking what OSU gets but how much talent is there in KY and where does that talent go? I know there are several top programs in Louisville but for the past 5 years of so neither UK or UL have been any good. I know Highlands in NKY has some top level players from time to time but occasionally you hear of them going to ND or UC but thats about it.
Here are a few that come to the top of my head:
3 from this year already (ULM-Arky and Auburn)
Utah State-Auburn last year
Jacksonville St.-Ole Miss (Loss to an FCS team)
UAB-UT a couple years ago, Wyoming-UT, Memphis-UT with P. Manning
Any number of Vanderbilt losses (Army, MTSU, Duke come to mind)
Approached as a Vandy fan, there have been a few times when Vandy has won SEC games they had no business winning: (@ UT 2005, @ UGa 2006, @ USCe 2007)
When all is said and done more is said than done.
I bet you're right that no players from WKU were offered scholarships to UK. I'd also be willing to wager that they were quite amped to show what a mistake UK made in not offering them scholarships
Were it the case where Kentucky had a huge talent differential, it wouldn't really matter. But given that UK had slightly more talent, the motivation and scheme can make up a small gap.
*I don't believe Rivals rankings are superior in any way, but rather knew where to find them and knew I wouldn't have to pay for the privilege.
They're working their way to being a pretty solid Division I football team, as evidenced not only by beating Kentucky, but by playing Alabama pretty well in Tuscaloosa, 35-0. The final score doesn't show how close it really was, as Bama got a closing seconds TD. Offensively, the Tops and the Crimson Tide were within three first downs and 100 total yards of each other. They also beat Austin Peay 49-10, who also lost to VaTech by around the same score.
Sure, they're not great, but it's not like they're pushovers either.
"You can learn little from victory. You can learn everything from defeat."
-- Christy Matthewson
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-- Leo Durocher
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