Originally Posted by nate
Chapman can be downright pornographic at times.
Yeah, he isn't shaky. But he's not quite the shutdown setup guy either. Seems somewhat inconsistent, and I'm not sure how well he weathers big pressure.I don't include Marshall in that group of shaky.
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When one whipping boy is sent down, another inevitably bubbles to the surface.
For those that believe in luck, he's been very unlucky with a .421 BAbip
I think Chapman has spoiled people because the fact of the matter is that relievers will give up runs.
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
Reds righty bullpen hasn't been that great all year. Chapman and Marshall on the left side are so good that their numbers mask the righty situation.
Lecure can be effective, gets hurt most seasons, affects his performance. Arredondo ok, walks a lot of guys, allows HRs. Ondrusek started good, went downhill. Simon pretty good, not a back end guy, his value is his ability to pitch multi innings effectively.
It was a good idea to acquire Broxton who had 23 saves for KC, can still throw hard, gets DPs. Doesn't miss a ton of bats, but for a late season acquisition glad Reds got him. Agree with Doug that it's too bad he doesn't miss more bats.
Hoover should be back with the big club too. Bat misser, did well at AAA, time for his return. Won't criticize sending him down, but time for his return.
It's not Broxton v. Hoover. The righty bullpen isn't that great and I think both should be Reds. Hoover likely to come up tomorrow when the Mes suspension ends and 25 man roster restored.
Last edited by Kc61; 08-22-2012 at 01:10 PM.
Phillips makes a play and we aren't talking about Broxton. Over the course of this season he has kept the ball in the park, which IMO is one of the most important things a reliever can do. I don't have a problem with last night, Phillips makes that play or a late swing doesn't find the foul line and Broxton does his job.
What you mentioned abotu KC is correct. However, what sticks out the most is his low K rate, and decently high walk rate. He's probably pretty much the same pitcher in Cincinnati, and that is probably a pitcher that shouldn't be pitching the 8th. That role should be Marshall's.
Unfortunately, I can't tell you who the reds best righty reliever is. It might be JJ Hoover for all we know.
Arredondo needs to get it going from the right side. In his last 10 innings (30 days) he has walked five and allowed three homers.
Jose is hard to hit, his BAA is good and his hits per inning allowed is good.
But too many walks - 28 in 49 innings overall - and recently quite a few homers allowed.
He's the righty I thought would cover the late innings. If he was more effective the need for Broxton/Hoover in the late innings might be less.
Last edited by Kc61; 08-22-2012 at 11:16 AM.