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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    Welcome to the club.

    I try to be wrong at least twice a day.
    You do realize you are wrong more in one day than Raisor has been in his life, right?

    Plus, he invented the lava lamp.
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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfboy View Post
    I'm happy to wait and see. I have more questions about Broxton than regrets about Sulbaran and Joseph.
    This is my stance as well.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by pedro View Post
    As for the trade? I like it. It was just a couple of weeks ago where it was seeming like the BP was wearing thin. This helps now IMO.
    I'm not crazy about Joseph leaving, but I think Broxton is an upgrade. And call me crazy, but people have been extremely agitated over the number of high-leverage innings given to Ondrusek. Well, I can't fathom people wouldn't rather have Broxton being given those innings.

    Problem solved.
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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    You don't have any posts in the 'I was wrong about...' thread.
    Fixed that one for you.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    http://news.cincinnati.com/article/2...news|text|Reds

    The other is likely Donnie Joseph, a 2-year-old left-hander, who was a combined 8-3 with a 1.72 at Double-A and 68 Ks, 17 BBs in 52.1 innings at Triple-A Louisville.
    This has to violate some kind of child labor law.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I like it. Add depth to the pen and allows Chapman to get some rest. The Reds bot Broxton for two minor league relievers. Remember Zack Cy Stewart, Carlos Fisher, Josh Roenicke, etc? Guys are a dime a dozen.
    Let's just hope Donnie Joseph doesn't become this decade's BJ Ryan

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by crazybob60 View Post
    I am just curious....was I the only person who didn't get any work today done?
    Between this and the Olympics, I have not been very productive today.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by Puffy View Post
    You do realize you are wrong more in one day than Raisor has been in his life, right?

    Plus, he invented the lava lamp.
    and he doesn't even have to wear pants to run rings around my wrongness.

    Not that I've ever seen that happen...
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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus the Pimp View Post
    No matter how mediocre Stewart continues to be, you don't think you may have been incorrect?

    The Reds weren't even sure Stewart would cut it as a starter. Just because you thought he would be a future Cy Young candidate doesn't mean the Reds shared your optimism. It could just be that the Reds weren't as high on him, and if that's the case, he's done nothing to really make that seem silly. At what point do you concede that Stewart has not lived up to your expectations, and maybe the Reds didn't overpay because your expectations were way too high?
    No. I don't think anything that Stewart has done since then has anything to do with the trade.

    I was wrong about what Stewart would be. A lot of people were. Our own scouts/his managers/his coaches too.

    Doesn't matter. Scott Rolen was demanding a trade to a midwest team and the Blue Jays said they would make it happen. The Reds were the only team at the time who even had room for a third baseman. We were literally the only suitors for him.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Let's just hope Donnie Joseph doesn't become this decade's BJ Ryan
    Ten BJ Ryans wouldn't have cured the Reds' futility during the 2000s, but one Juan Guzman almost got them to the playoffs.
    How do we know he's not Mel Torme?

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    You said he'd win a Cy Young in Toronto. You were wrong.
    I was. Doesn't mean we didn't overpay.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Wow.
    You thought that Stewart was our #1 prospect. Obviously the Reds thought differently.

    The only guy that ended up having value was EdE as a DH.
    Stewart might eventually make something out of himself, but it's not looking good now

    You've never said what a "Fair price" for Rolen would've been..
    Anyone who thought EE would sign a contract for close to $30M after that trade can call scoreboard IMHO.
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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    I think that resting Chapman in the short-term is probably an enormous factor in this deal -- maybe the biggest factor. I am ok with that. That is the kind of thing the club is probably keeping a close eye on, the details of which we're not necessarily aware of.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    That Goldstein quote was not even in the context of the Reds, it was just pure vacuum sealed puffery. He's an outsider free to say what he wants.
    Well here is some more then Jonathan Mayo said the exact same thing.
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    Re: Reds Acquire Jonathan Broxton

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    Let's just hope Donnie Joseph doesn't become this decade's BJ Ryan
    What happens if he is? If you run a good minor league organizatoin you should be able to produce minor league arms year in year out.


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