Leading into a grueling series as well.Originally Posted by Benihana
Leading into a grueling series as well.
Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand
Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ...
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
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Go BLUE!!!
Per Reds.com - Logan O has stranded the last 16 inherited numbers.
Worstest. Reliever. Evah!!
"I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of bubble gum."
- - Rowdy Roddy Piper
"It takes a big man to admit when he is wrong. I am not a big man"
- - Fletch
9-4 ballgame.
I think Ondrusek is ok. He tends to fade later in the season, maybe he'll do better in late 2012 with less work.
Arredondo apparently warming up.
If you ignore the possibility that after three consecutive years, perhaps it's not that terribly lucky, sure.
Even if you regress his BABIP to .300, which seems like a reach considering he's maintained his BABIP in three straight seasons, you're still left with an OPS against of league average.
So no, he's actually not a replacement level reliever. He's more like an average reliever.
And for the record, I like FIP and xFIP, but I think the true measure of a pitcher is in between FIP and OPS. I don't think either extremes are the most accurate measures of a pitcher. I think it's too little to not account for anything in play, but I also think not all of what happens in play was the doing of a pitcher. So I don't think OPS against is perfect, but I don't think FIP is either.
Last edited by Brutus; 08-02-2012 at 03:28 PM.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
1. Chapman
2. Marshall
3. Broxton
Simon
Arredondo (in some order)
6.Lecure
Hoover (who I realize is not here)
8. Ondrusek
9. Bray
In no way is Ondrusek better than any of the guys I listed above him. He should not be a #5 reliever.
I'm glad the days are gone where people can just make claims about a player's ability without being able to support that with "what they're eyes tell them."
Good for you Homer. Teach us something, will ya?
Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand
For the record, I would have let Ondrusek pitch the 9th here.
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Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand
Why? It worked just fine for us back in 70's when we were watching the Big Red Machine.
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
There's a difference between pitching with the tying run in the whole, and starting the inning with a 5 run lead.Price
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That's a name I haven't heard for a long time
I know, right?Oooooo
That's a name I haven't heard for a long time
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
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