So who's up for heading to Paul Brown Stadium for the Bengals practice at 6pm? Seems like an appropriate way to celebrate a Reds win
Ondrusek is inconsistent, but I think Homer Bailey is piling on. Having watched a lot of baseball this year, there are some bullpens that could use Ondrusek. As for a now back-end of the bullpen guy, he's strong enough to be above average in that role.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
I predicted 3 of 4 for this series, but man, the Padres were very pesky in doing it. The series was starting to remind me of the bad old days. Waiting for Todd Van Poppel to appear out of the bullpen in relief of Jimmy Haynes. If it were not for the bullpen, we could have very easily lost 3 of 4 in this series.
However, I don't think any "regression" or "Verducci factor" panic is warranted just yet for the starters. I still think it was the random nature of the game.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Big win and the lead is now 3.5 games. Just a little slice of Heaven...
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Reds have a 2 game lead on the Nats for home field and for the best record in the majors.
Nice to see Cozart moved down in the order.
I was a bit nervous of what would happen when Paul got a full game start. It seems that was a legitimate concern. Overexposed.
All the hand-wringing about Cairo...and he has a very solid game. I saw 2 webgems from him in the highlights. Diving stab that Enberg was incredulous about. And the barehanded reception of the Cozart flip to start the really slick DP. Toss in a 2 for 4 with a run scored...nice game for Miggy.
Looks like it was a good game overall. Sad I missed it.
To be fair to Ondrusek, or any reliever, you have to compare him to others filling a similar role in the bullpen. While it would be hard to define, it would not be impossible. I would imagine he stacks up pretty well if you ranked relief pitchers 5-7 in the pecking order around MLB.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Funny thing is, in the old days, the only stat we cared about for a pitcher was ERA. And if a pitcher had an ERA south of about 3.35, we figured he was effective enough to keep you in the ball game without embarrassing you too often. And 99.9% of the time, we were right.
I agree Ondrusek is not one of the top five relievers on this team. But the majority of other major league teams would love to have a guy with his stats in their bullpen. Who knows, he may even be better if he didn't have to pitch half the time in GABP.
“I think I throw the ball as hard as anyone. The ball just doesn't get there as fast.” — Eddie Bane
“We know we're better than this ... but we can't prove it.” — Tony Gwynn
We clearly will have to agree to disagree, but the bolded part of what you said is just absolutely not true. Back in the day, teams fell victim time and time again to ERA's that were bloated due to random luck over a certain period of time. FIP and xFIP didn't just magically become better predictors of future success, or better indicators of true talent in recent years. Just because no one knew about it then, didn't mean that pitchers that struck out more, walked less, and gave up fewer homer weren't better pitchers than those that relied on excellent defense or luck to get them their outs.
If you want to plug your ears and say "LALALALALALA", and see what you want to see, then yes, you don't need any of those stats.
If you want to evaluate him as a pitcher, you need to evaluate things he does well, and things he doesn't do well. He doesn't strike guys out at a good rate. He walks guys at a pretty alarming rate, especially for someone that doesn't strike anyone out. He does a pretty good job of keeping the ball in the park, I'll give you that, but some of that can be contributed to an artificially low HR/FB%, especially for GABP. His GB rate has dropped by a pretty significant amount as well, which is a bit alarming.
BuckeyeRedLeg has already done the ground work. Granted this is as of last week, but here is some perspective on Logan:
http://www.redszone.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=17
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