Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
That aside, I agree with this. I think the Pirates are freaking out a bit. They remind me a lot of the Reds in 2010 at this point in the season, before the Cards fell apart and the Reds' lock on the division was secured. And that's right when the Reds-Cards brawl happened, if memory serves.
I think they were upset about the Heisey call and let it get to them emotionally, which was compounded by their inability to do anything on the field the rest of the game. Come the 9th, this happens, and McCutchen freaks out. McCutchen is well-known as an extremely level-headed player and I've never seen him angry like that. I don't necessarily think Chapman hit him intentionally, but I'm guessing he didn't exactly look apologetic after Cutch looked up in a fit of anger from being plunked hard.
The Pirates feel tremendous pressure to prove they are the real deal right now. Facing a first-place team at this point in the year -- it's huge. And one thing that hasn't been mentioned in here is that Pirates fans (beyond being part of a sports fanbase that, I feel, is ridiculously sour grapey about calls generally) one gajillion percent hold the Braves call as the turning point of their season last year. People still talk about it all the time. They have no memory of the Buccos collapsing handily on their own after that, only that call. So the pirates have a very bad chip on their shoulder about calls, I think.
I hope everybody channels their emotion onto the field, because this game was uncomfortable in a way I don't like. I like the Reds being able to stand up for themselves, but -- and I'm sorry if people don't agree with me -- I really, as a fan of this team living outside Cincinnati, don't want to have to get in a position where I'm constantly defending them as a thug team. This happened with their division rival two years ago and it's going to get tougher to defend if it happens again, even if the Reds aren't entirely at fault. On a larger level, the Pirates are the feel-good baseball story right now, so somebody has to be the villain by default. The Reds are too good a team to have to resort to that. and it would make my life completely miserable.
Last edited by vaticanplum; 08-04-2012 at 02:56 AM.
There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.
I just don't see the big deal about a hit by pitch in an otherwise low-key game. As Superdude just said, Chapman seems to throw them to the backstop on a fairly regular basis and he has 3 HBP's this year. I suppose I could understand an uproar if McCutchen WAS plunked in the head at 100 MPH, but he wasn't nor was he particularly close to being.
"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
But if Cutch is going to crowd the plate, which he does, then maybe he needs to stop by Barry Bonds Body Armor Store, cause he's going to get nailed again. LOL
Last edited by GAC; 08-04-2012 at 05:33 AM.
"panic" only comes from having real expectations
Pitchers are allowed to pitch inside. When did this become a game for little girls? I don't think he was trying to hit him. He did. So what?
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH
Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
Call me a Caveman, but I'm all for it. Never support intentional plunking anywhere near the head, but if Chap went WAY inside with the "well, if it hits him it hits him" mindset, I'm ok with that. I enjoy the machismo and unwritten rules that have always defined baseball.
from the MLB.com post-game storyMcCutchen and the Pirates' dugout were visibly upset by the plunking, but McCutchen planned to channel any lingering displeasure into a revved-up performance on Saturday.
"It just pumped us up," McCutchen said. "And that's the feeling we're going to take on the field [Saturday]."
"But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."
I don't have an issue with Chapman hitting McCutchen - whether it was quasi on purpose or not. I also don't have a problem with the Pirates being upset and retaliating in some fashion. As long as it is within the rules of the game and no clear intent to injure (the pitches stay below the head) - it's just some good old fashioned baseball right there.
Nothing would be better than if both the Reds and Pirates were legitimate enough for long enough for this to become a rivalry again.