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    Baker Preserving his Players

    A surprisingly coherent article by Fay on Dusty's approach to managing playing time.

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...ayers-and-win/

    While Dusty's lineups on a given night will drive us crazy, particularly his insistence of keeping positions in the same spot and undervaluing of OBP (not unrelated issues...), it was really nice to get some insight from him here.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Good article. Rick, I feel like since Dusty's been hired, you've developed more of a respect for him as a manager. Is that a fair thing for me to say? If I recall correctly you were pretty upset with the hiring due to his time in Chicago. How do you think Dusty's done in Cincy so far? I'd say better than average. Some things drive me mad, but he does a great job managing the clubhouse, keeping the guys fresh, and with the bullpen IMO.

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    Coming into this season, Baker’s teams are 249-203 (.551) in September. His five playoffs team are a combined 82-50 (.621). He’s only had a losing record only four times in September in the last 13 seasons.
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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    He’s only had a losing record only four times in September in the last 13 seasons.
    One being September 2010
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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Article addresses position players only. I'm much more concerned about the pitchers.
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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Again the human aspect of the game is pushed into the reality realm

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Explains his resting of Ludwick frequently.

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    1975 and 1976, the "Great Eight" started together in only 88 out of a possible 324 games. In those 88 games, they went 69-19.

    I think Dusty is on to something.

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Explains his resting of Ludwick frequently.
    Marty said (last night) that Ludwick was "beat up"

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Marty said (last night) that Ludwick was "beat up"
    Who isn't beat up at this point in the season?

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Who isn't beat up at this point in the season?
    But Ludwick is 34 with a history of injuries. There are different stages of beat up. A beat up Frazier isn't the same as a beat up Ludwick or Rolen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Who isn't beat up at this point in the season?
    Apparently everyone who should start every game if you ever read a game thread on RZ.

    As a note he didn't stress who was more beat up or what was beating him up.

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    Who isn't beat up at this point in the season?
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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    But Ludwick is 34 with a history of injuries. There are different stages of beat up. A beat up Frazier isn't the same as a beat up Ludwick or Rolen.
    Marty and Fay were talking about how the rookies are hitting a wall right now.

    I don't have an issue with Ludwick getting more and more rest. I also think Votto being out for a month may be a blessing in disguise because he will be fresh(er) as the season drags on.

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    Re: Baker Preserving his Players

    Quote Originally Posted by Always Red View Post
    1975 and 1976, the "Great Eight" started together in only 88 out of a possible 324 games. In those 88 games, they went 69-19.

    I think Dusty is on to something.
    This is a valid point. As good as the starting eight were, guys like Bill Plummer, Darrel Chaney, Doug Flynn, and Dan Driessan still got a lot of playing time. Driessan racked up over 300 innings in the OF in those two years alone.
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