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    If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    .....who would you keep?
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake, and I wouldn't think about it very hard.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    Leake, and I wouldn't think about it very hard.
    bird in the hand and all that.
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake, as he hasn't had the shoulder issues.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake for two reasons:

    1. More than a year less service time
    2. Adds value at the plate
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake..
    Less injury worries, club has control of him for longer period of time.
    I like his makeup better too. Seems like he will have a long career like Arroyo.

    I have been impressed with how Homer has taken a huge step forward this year however. Impressed that he had such a rigorous offseason workout to get in good shape, and glad it paid off for him.
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    If you are talking about a trade, the return would be involved in my decision. All things being equal, Leake.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake; I think he will soon become an innings eater much like Arroyo. Every team can use durable pitchers like this.
    Bailey just doesn't seem to be able to be consisent for a whole season. He's been better this season. But lately he's reverted back to Bad Bailey. Also like others have pointed out he has had shoulder issues. I'm wondering if that shoulder isn't barking a little now and he's not saying anything.
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    I wonder what the responses would be if this question was asked on on 7/30.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    I wonder what the responses would be if this question was asked on on 7/30.
    Are you suggesting that RedsZone fans are a fickle lot?

    /Leake, but by a hair and like someone said above, the return would have to be known too
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Bailey and I wouldn't have to think about it. His stuff is just much better. When he is on his game, he can dominate the other team. When Mike Leake is on his game, he can get a bunch of groundouts.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Homer. And I love Leake too. Personally, I don't deal ANY of the starters. Once Bronson leaves, that's when I move Chapman into the rotation.
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Leake. Homer has better velocity, but I wouldn't say his "stuff" is necessarily better. Leake can really move the ball around and hit his spots. He's also more athletic. It's not a slam-dunk case, I can see a case for Homer. Personally, I take Leake and don't think twice about it.

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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Homer has had multiple shoulder issues, therefore I pick the crafty cat burgler.
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    Re: If you could only keep one of either Leake or Bailey......

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    I wonder what the responses would be if this question was asked on on 7/30.
    The issue with with Bailey has always been his inconsistency. He has better stuff, but can't put it together for an extended period of time.

    I think it's funny that people a month ago were touting how consistant Bailey had been, since the season was only halfway over.

    For me, it's Leake, but only because of the reasons RMR gave. If they had the same controllable years, it's a toss up, imo, both are solid #4-5 starters.
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