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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    I think Bruce makes the lineup.
    lol, yea, forgot about the little problem we'll have with finding a place for Frazier. Really, it was just a Freudian slip from continuing to play sloppy RF.
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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    I'd be shocked of that. Probably more shocked by that than anything else I've seen the Reds do lol

    I think they'll keep the possibility open, though. They'd probably have him report for the game that day (it's in Houston) and then activate him after the game. But when push comes to shove, while I imagine he'll be with the club in September, I can't see them putting him on the playoff roster unless he's able to contribute as a hitter.
    I don't think I would be shocked, or even have too much reaction one way or another. There is too much smoke that keeps coming from that direction. The beat writers, announcers, and Dusty himself. Someone in the front office could easily squash that talk. They could all ignore, or deny that possibility. If they weren't going to use him on the playoff roster, I would not bring him up in September. It would cost them a 40 man spot over the winter, and start his arb clock (which I don't really care about).
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    2B Phillips
    LF Frazier
    1B Votto
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    CF Bruce
    3B Rolen
    SS Cozart
    C Hanigan
    I love this idea.

    It'll never happen.
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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    It would all be roses if Hanny hit second right up until the day he gets thrown at at home trying to score from third on a base hit.
    Simple solution really. I'm kinda surprised nobody here's thought of it.


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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I know that some of the ballpark philosophy of batting the catcher lower in the order involves 2 factors from the defensive side that leak into that positions offensive game in the first inning at home.

    1. The catcher has to quickly remove his equipment to get ready to bat.
    2. the catcher is now not available to discuss the game/pitch selection with the pitcher and coaching staff.

    Small stuff... or is it?
    It's things like this that get overlooked by the casual fan. WoY is NOT your casual fan.
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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    His OBP is .368 and even without the intentional walks, it would be (probably) around .350.
    We can remove the obvious/official intentional walks, but how many unofficial/intentional walks has Hanigan received? Number eight hitters in the National League will be "pitched around" in certain situations with the pitcher coming up.
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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by LoganBuck View Post
    Somehow or other, I firmly believe that Billy Hamilton will be on the playoff roster. The day of reckoning is coming on Aug 31. He has to be added to the 40 man on that day to be playoff eligible.
    Hmmm. I'll be shocked if he's added.

    Seems like they're already in a scramble over who gets sent down or released if they bring Joey back before September.

    I think it's iffy that they bring him as a September "get your feet wet" move.

    Maybe to sell more tickets. But the attendance lately says they don't need any gimmicks. And the Cardinals series will guarantee another sellout this weekend. Oops.........maybe I got it wrong........is that in St. Louis or at home this coming weekend?
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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Hmmm. I'll be shocked if he's added.

    Seems like they're already in a scramble over who gets sent down or released if they bring Joey back before September.

    I think it's iffy that they bring him as a September "get your feet wet" move.

    Maybe to sell more tickets. But the attendance lately says they don't need any gimmicks. And the Cardinals series will guarantee another sellout this weekend. Oops.........maybe I got it wrong........is that in St. Louis or at home this coming weekend?
    Valdez is the backup SS. The only way I want to see him in the playoffs is if Cozart gets hurt. Other than the backup catcher, he would probably be the last option as a PH. If the Reds feel that Hamilton can be an adequate backup SS defensively, then I think he is valuable on the roster as a late inning pinch runner. That could swing one playoff game in the direction of the Reds. If Cozart gets hurt, then Hamilton plays the remainder of the game and you DL Cozart in favor of Valdez after the game. I don't want Hamilton starting or getting plate appearances other than in an emergency to finish out one game.

    If the Reds feel Hamilton would not lose the game for them with his glove if Cozart goes down (I have never seen him play defensively) and he demonstrates that he is an intelligent base runner during September (not getting picked off), I think the idea is interesting. If Cozart is not hurt in the playoffs, he is more valuable than Valdez. In an extra inning game, Mike Leake could pinch hit and be almost as effective as Valdez IMO.

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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    For a team that has won all year with pitching and defense, I really doubt they will weaken themselves considerably at every OF position by going with a Frazier-Bruce-Ludwick combo out here.

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    Re: 3 things that should be done before our postseason

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    League average in terms of scoring when on base is about ~14%. Presumably it's higher for a guy in the 2 hole and higher for fast baserunners. In any event, the differece between Stubbs/Cozart and Hanigan would thus be in the ballpark of 5 runs. And depending on just how much of a difference speed makes, it could be less. So is the lineup a "big deal" then? No. Not really.
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    If that is true (the average runner scores when they get on base 14% of the time), that's a compelling argument to keep Stubbs at the top of the lineup..

    Career numbers.. Stubbs has 473 hits + 169 walks. He has scored 277 runs.
    That's a rate of scoring of 43.1%, which is pretty darn impressive. I guess the perception is that he's benefited from hitting in front of Votto most of his career. That is true to some extent, but if you look at his career splits, he's appeared in 270 games batting #1 or #2. He's appeared in 183 games batting in other places.. So the "top of the order" benefit is not as great as it appears.

    Maybe Hannigan is an upgrade at the top of the order.. I'm not discounting that.. However, I think there's more than just comparing OBP in making this decision.. Drew's power and speed leads to a lot of runs scored. With 40 games left, he's on pace to score 93 runs this year, despite being OBP challenged.
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