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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by 40YrRedsFan View Post
    why do you throw Howard a fast ball?
    To see how far it can fly?
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    even though they lost some talent these Phillies CAN HIT THE BASEBALL

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    They need to stop pitching to Howard. He kills the Reds every game.

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    The shift is something that always manages to amaze me. I can't recall it even existing more than seven or eight years ago. I would be embarrassed as a pro to have a team play me in a way that says, "your abilities are so limited and predictable that we're just going to concede the entire left side of the infield to you." At least throw a bunt down the third base line every now and then.
    (Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
    Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Leake on the way to a short outing...already 56 pitches through 3 innings with 5 hits allowed

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Bruce trots down to first. Nice start.
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by 40YrRedsFan View Post
    Leake on the way to a short outing...already 56 pitches through 3 innings with 5 hits allowed
    He's always capable of a few ten pitch or less innings
    (Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
    Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
    -RichRed

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    The shift is something that always manages to amaze me. I can't recall it even existing more than seven or eight years ago. I would be embarrassed as a pro to have a team play me in a way that says, "your abilities are so limited and predictable that we're just going to concede the entire left side of the infield to you." At least throw a bunt down the third base line every now and then.
    One of my pet peeves. Grrr.
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    One of my pet peeves. Grrr.
    I wonder if anyone knows when the first instance of this shift took place?
    (Referring to Jack Hannahan signing with a Korean team)
    Since there are no teams on the moon, I guess South Korea's far enough from Cincinnati to satisfy me.
    -RichRed

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by 40YrRedsFan View Post
    Leake on the way to a short outing...already 56 pitches through 3 innings with 5 hits allowed
    he isnt pitching against the mets today

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by OGB View Post
    I wonder if anyone knows when the first instance of this shift took place?
    I read once that the first shift was against Ted Williams.
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    I believe Cairo struggles so much at the plate because he can't see. He's constantly squinting.

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    Originally called the "Boudreau" or "Williams" shift, the strategy is often associated with Ted Williams, but it was actually first employed against Cy Williams during the 1920s.[1][2] It was later used against Ted Williams during the 1946 World Series between the Red Sox and the Cardinals as a defensive gimmick by St. Louis manager Eddie Dyer to psych out and hopefully contain Boston slugger Williams. It was devised by Cleveland Indians manager Lou Boudreau on a blackboard between games of a doubleheader in July 1946 to halt Williams' hot hitting. "I always considered The Boudreau Shift a psychological, rather than a tactical victory," wrote Lou Boudreau in his book, Player-Manager. The shift has been employed since then to thwart extreme pull hitters (mostly lefties), such as Barry Bonds, Ryan Howard, Jason Giambi, or David Ortiz.
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

    Quote Originally Posted by Billy_Bearcat View Post
    I believe Cairo struggles so much at the plate because he can't see. He's constantly squinting.
    the Rick Vaughn of hitting

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    Re: Reds vs. Phillies Monday 8/20

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