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    Most important series of the year?

    I believe it is. Not for the Reds, but for the Cards. If the Cards sweep they will be on their way, confidence fully restored. The hapless Matheney did it again in that 19 inning game, yanking Craig and Freeze early for pinch runners that did not run and needing Wainwright to pinch hit in extras. And they say he will learn....when?

    But the starting pitching cant be messed with as Garcia is back, and throwing like the old Garcia. Also, the incredible sucking man, Tyler Greene was finally shipped out by the GM to keep MM from useing him any more.

    The Cards only weak spot is now the starter Lynn. He will probably give up a bunch 'o runs tonite, but if the Cards bust out another 13 spot it won't matter. The final 2 games will be very tough.

    We are going to have a VERY tough race to the finish, with neither team wanting to have to play that crazy one game WC thingy! Are the Pirates out of it? Yes. They have been scuttled. The Cards/Reds finnish 1 and 2 as predicted.

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    Until the next one

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Magdal View Post
    I believe it is. Not for the Reds, but for the Cards. If the Cards sweep they will be on their way, confidence fully restored. The hapless Matheney did it again in that 19 inning game, yanking Craig and Freeze early for pinch runners that did not run and needing Wainwright to pinch hit in extras. And they say he will learn....when?

    But the starting pitching cant be messed with as Garcia is back, and throwing like the old Garcia. Also, the incredible sucking man, Tyler Greene was finally shipped out by the GM to keep MM from useing him any more.

    The Cards only weak spot is now the starter Lynn. He will probably give up a bunch 'o runs tonite, but if the Cards bust out another 13 spot it won't matter. The final 2 games will be very tough.

    We are going to have a VERY tough race to the finish, with neither team wanting to have to play that crazy one game WC thingy! Are the Pirates out of it? Yes. They have been scuttled. The Cards/Reds finnish 1 and 2 as predicted.
    Even if the Cards sweep, which I'll wager they WON'T, it's still not going to be a VERY TOUGH race to the finish.

    Our pitching is MILES better than yours, and this race ain't going to be that close mate. You obviously don't understand pitching my Cardinal friend.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    yes......

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by smixsell View Post
    Our pitching is MILES better than yours
    There are some signs that our pitching is fading. I would agree that up to this point ours has been better, I'm not very convinced that from this point forward I would still consider ours better.
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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    I don't we have better pitching than the Cardinals, we are narrowly ahead of them in team ERA and that's will all the scrubs they had to cycle in and with Wainwright working his way back from TJ.

    Wainwright has a 3.65 overall but is at 2.87 over his last 18 after a sucking for a 6.16 his first 7 starts finding his stuff from a year off. They also dumped all the scrubs they have cycled in due to injury along with poor signings. They have 8 guys with 5+ ERA's removed from their roster with their current unit having a awesome staff ERA.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    I don't we have better pitching than the Cardinals, we are narrowly ahead of them in team ERA and that's will all the scrubs they had to cycle in and with Wainwright working his way back from TJ.

    Wainwright has a 3.65 overall but is at 2.87 over his last 18 after a sucking for a 6.16 his first 7 starts finding his stuff from a year off. They also dumped all the scrubs they have cycled in due to injury along with poor signings. They have 8 guys with 5+ ERA's removed from their roster with their current unit having a awesome staff ERA.
    We'll see.

    PS We're ahead of them in ERA AND play in GABP.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    We are a better team than the Cardinals, and it shows in the standings. Cards will probably get a Wild Card. If they do, good for them. But I don't think they will beat us in the Central.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by smixsell View Post
    We'll see.

    PS We're ahead of them in ERA AND play in GABP.
    A main factor in our ERA is stability in pitching, if we had to cycle in as many bad BP arms as they have we would see a far worse ERA.

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    3.47 Reds
    3.65 Cardinals

    SP ERA
    3.49 Cardinals
    3.77 Reds

    BP ERA
    2.78 Reds
    4.00 Cardinals

    We have used 9 BP arms all year and they have used 17, they have used more BP guys than we used total pitchers. Their current BP doesn't come close to a bad BP. Their two worst ERA's in the current BP have been lights out the last two months with 2.13 and 1.66 ERA since start of June.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    No...not at all. Not concerned about the cardinals. The most important one for the reds will be the world series : )

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    A main factor in our ERA is stability in pitching, if we had to cycle in as many bad BP arms as they have we would see a far worse ERA.

    ERA
    3.47 Reds
    3.65 Cardinals

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    3.77 Reds

    BP ERA
    2.78 Reds
    4.00 Cardinals

    We have used 9 BP arms all year and they have used 17, they have used more BP guys than we used total pitchers. Their current BP doesn't come close to a bad BP. Their two worst ERA's in the current BP have been lights out the last two months with 2.13 and 1.66 ERA since start of June.
    And your point is?

    ................Like I said, our pitching is miles better than the cardinals.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by smixsell View Post
    And your point is?

    ................Like I said, our pitching is miles better than the cardinals.
    They have better pitching with the only difference is we have a better last guy in the pen and that's why our ERA is slightly better. We sure as hell aren't miles better.

    They have cycled in 9 guys into that role and it has skewed their ERA greatly, if McClellan would have came in 100% and locked that role up like he was before they tried to make him a starter they would be well in front of us.

    Dickson 10.80 in 3.1
    Romero 10.13 in 8
    Fuentes 9.00 in 5
    Cleto 7.00 in 9
    Sanchez 6.60 in 15
    Freeman 6.00 in 12
    Fick 5.40 in 1.2
    McClellan 5.30 in 18.2
    Browning 5.12 in 19.1

    If we had a unstable roster as well our ERA would be higher too. We used 9 BP guys total they have 9 guys over 5 ERA and could be inline for another if they make a roster move to replace Dickson after today.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    If you dropped out our bad pitchers our ERA would improve too.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldCat View Post
    If you dropped out our bad pitchers our ERA would improve too.
    Microscopically since Broxton is our worst guy. The difference in our ERA's is the Reds defense and their injury issues. If we had to cycle in 17 guys out of the pen rather than 9 we would have a higher ERA. With Lynn moving to the pen it will be 18 and if they add someone new for Dickson they could have 19 different guys work out of their pen this year.

    The Cardinals have a better FIP and xFIP and that's even with all those scrubs they used. Wainwright not having his stuff to start the year and the game Garcia got bombed in when he got hurt and a few more BP injuries. While we have had no injury issues at all.

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    Re: Most important series of the year?

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Microscopically since Broxton is our worst guy. The difference in our ERA's is the Reds defense and their injury issues. If we had to cycle in 17 guys out of the pen rather than 9 we would have a higher ERA. With Lynn moving to the pen it will be 18 and if they add someone new for Dickson they could have 19 different guys work out of their pen this year.

    The Cardinals have a better FIP and xFIP and that's even with all those scrubs they used. Wainwright not having his stuff to start the year and the game Garcia got bombed in when he got hurt and a few more BP injuries. While we have had no injury issues at all.

    So leaving out the scrubs and the days when they played poorly, they are better than us when you do none of those adjustments.

    I'm convinced.


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