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    Re: Bruce to CF, Frazier to RF on Votto return?

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    I think it's more because he's a fantastic defender, despite what the flawed defensive metrics say. If Stubbs was batting 8th playing everyday in CF, people wouldn't have a problem with him. See who Atlanta's everyday #8 hitter is.
    Drew Stubbs is not a fantastic defender. Absolutely not. That was a tag he got in college that he's never lived up to in Cincinnati. Not even close.
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    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??


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    Re: Bruce to CF, Frazier to RF on Votto return?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    Drew Stubbs is not a fantastic defender. Absolutely not. That was a tag he got in college that he's never lived up to in Cincinnati. Not even close.
    He has range and is fundamentally sound. I think the only weaknesses you can chalk up against him are balls near the wall and and sometimes balls that fall in front of him.

    I myself don't know that those things are enough to knock him down from being a good if borderline great defender.

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    Re: Bruce to CF, Frazier to RF on Votto return?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    He has range and is fundamentally sound. I think the only weaknesses you can chalk up against him are balls near the wall and and sometimes balls that fall in front of him.

    I myself don't know that those things are enough to knock him down from being a good if borderline great defender.
    UZR's never been a fan of Stubbs outside of a small sample in 2009. From just watching, I think the balls falling in front of him is a bigger detriment than anything. He doesn't seem to utilize his tools for much of anything outside of covering the gaps.


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