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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Wainright with 52 pitches. Homer with 68 but a half inning ahead.

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsMan3203 View Post
    What does it say about Homer?
    "After 5 pitches, Homer sucks."
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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Carpenter lines a single to right

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    Darn the luck!
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    If you are interested in the BABIP stuff, good article on the Baseball Prosectus site titled "How Does Quality of Contact Relate to BABIP?". (Subscription req.)

    This article is about using batting F/X to measure hit speed, and not surprisingly finds that harder hit ground balls are base hits more often than slower hit ones.

    So, two pitchers can indeed have similar numbers of balls hit in play, and have quite different results in terms of how hard those balls are hit.
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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Was hoping Homer could have a clean inning. I'd consider a quality start by Homer today, 6 innings 3 runs, against this offense a successful start.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Cardinals pitching is looking better and better. And that lineup is scary statistically.

    I was hoping they wouldn't get a Wild Card spot, but now I"m a little worried.
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

    "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    If you are interested in the BABIP stuff, good article on the Baseball Prosectus site titled "How Does Quality of Contact Relate to BABIP?". (Subscription req.)

    This article is about using batting F/X to measure hit speed, and not surprisingly finds that harder hit ground balls are base hits more often than slower hit ones.

    So, two pitchers can indeed have similar numbers of balls hit in play, and have quite different results in terms of how hard those balls are hit.
    I did read that once, and I appreciate you linking it as I wanted to save it anyhow.

    But what amuses me is that what they found should have been common sense to begin with. It's the same reason why line drives fall into the field of play for hits more than grounders and why grounders fall more than fly balls. So one should expect better contact is going to equal more hits, even comparing grounders to other grounders.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Nice!
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Homer's stuff seems good enough to get guys out on balls. Since the three runs, a number of hitters have swung and missed or made weak contact on pitches out of the zone.

    His problem this game is all those pitches down the middle.

    Great throw by Hanigan.

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Hanigan nails the runner at 2nd.

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Wainwright looking pretty good considering he just throws junk up there.

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by RBA View Post
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    aka Fool's Gold. For the record, I disagree. I think Homer is Silver or maybe Bronze. He's a solid middle of the rotation pitcher...some days he can shut teams down and other days he gets clobbered, but generally he keeps a good offensive team in the game. He's doing a good job of keeping the ball down today, but everything is finding a hole. I didn't really see any meatballs down the middle except the pitch to Wainright. Meatballs generally leave the park. That's my

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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    I did read that once, and I appreciate you linking it as I wanted to save it anyhow.

    But what amuses me is that what they found should have been common sense to begin with. It's the same reason why line drives fall into the field of play for hits more than grounders and why grounders fall more than fly balls. So one should expect better contact is going to equal more hits, even comparing grounders to other grounders.
    I agree that it largely confirms common sense. But that is important to note this fact (that speed of batted balls is really important) when we start to over-emphasize how 'lucky' the other team is in having those grounders get through the infield. It isn't 'luck' when they are hit really hard.
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    Re: 8/26/12 - Reds vs Cards

    Ludwick flies out to the wall in left.


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