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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Here's the link for the Javelinas roster

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/afl/club.jsp?team_id=490

    Interesting that it shows Hamilton as an infielder. If someone has a link for a more recent iteration of this, please add.

    So who is Curtis Partch? I'm guessing he's someone they like a little bit, but need to decide whether to protect him from the Rule 5 draft? I don't recall ever seeing him mentioned in any conversations.
    Curt Partch reminds me of Logan Ondrusek. They both have good velocity, struggle with command at times, had mediocre minor league numbers, and couldn't get lefties out to save their lives. When the Reds sent Ondrusek to the AFL, they hoped a team would be intrigued by him and offer something valuable in a trade, but no one took the bait. Next thing you know, Ondrusek learned a cutter, and the rest is history.

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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    It also shows two TBA pitchers from Cincinnati.

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    How do they decide who gets to be on an AFL rosters?

    That roster has 35 players from 5 teams. You might think 7 players from each team.
    But the breakdown is:
    Min - 7
    Phi - 7
    Cin - 5
    SD - 8
    Sea - 8

    It's no big deal to me, I was just curious. Not many outfielders. Maybe the Reds made a deal that they would send less players if Billy Hamilton got to play more often in center?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    It also shows two TBA pitchers from Cincinnati.
    I did not see that. So that would up the Cincy contingent to 7?
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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    If Hamilton proves adept as scouts think at CF, how good a bet is he to be Cincinnati's leadoff hitter in 2013? 2014?

    Were I LaMarre, Smith, Rodriguez, or other CFers in the pipeline, I'd be bummed.

    Were I Gregorius or Cozart, I'd be really happy with the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    If Hamilton proves adept as scouts think at CF, how good a bet is he to be Cincinnati's leadoff hitter in 2013? 2014?

    Were I LaMarre, Smith, Rodriguez, or other CFers in the pipeline, I'd be bummed.

    Were I Gregorius or Cozart, I'd be really happy with the news.
    Agreed. This will likely relegate LaMarre to future 4th OF duties where I have said all along I think he belongs (think of him as an eventual replacement for Heisey). Bryson Smith will be happy just to make it to the show. Yorman Rodriguez is much more likely to be a RF than a CF if he makes it that far.

    The biggest question will be if the Reds trade (or even non-tender?) Stubbs in this offseason. I think he is as good as gone come 2014.
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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by lollipopcurve View Post
    There we go, folks. Glad to see this. I would not be surprised if Hamilton excels in CF. The question is the arm, of course, but he could become a monster flycatcher out there.
    Agreed.

    If I were Drew Stubbs, I would be paying attention to this BIG TIME. To me, this is the organizations way of saying "Billy, center is the easiest way to the bigs for you" and of saying "Drew, you're our weakest link right now...pick it up or we're finding a replacement".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Agreed. This will likely relegate LaMarre to future 4th OF duties where I have said all along I think he belongs (think of him as an eventual replacement for Heisey). Bryson Smith will be happy just to make it to the show. Yorman Rodriguez is much more likely to be a RF than a CF if he makes it that far.

    The biggest question will be if the Reds trade (or even non-tender?) Stubbs in this offseason. I think he is as good as gone come 2014.
    I don't think you can non-tender him. You either deal him in the off-season and sign Juan Pierre to a one-year deal, or hope that he doesn't fully tank next year and deal him then.

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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    I don't think you can non-tender him. You either deal him in the off-season and sign Juan Pierre to a one-year deal, or hope that he doesn't fully tank next year and deal him then.
    Why couldn't they non-tender him? You can non-tender anyone under your control without a contract for the following season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    Why couldn't they non-tender him? You can non-tender anyone under your control without a contract for the following season.
    I meant it as they can't just let him go away for nothing. He still could get SOMETHING in return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    I meant it as they can't just let him go away for nothing. He still could get SOMETHING in return.
    Oh I got ya.

    Well, I can't imagine he has much value at this juncture. But I also don't anticipate the Reds would non-tender him. I'd say they're more likely to option him and try to let him work through his struggles. Either way, I expect the Reds to address the position in the offseason.
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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    Per the Fall League's Twitter feed, Josh Ravin has been added to Peoria's roster.

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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    Per the Fall League's Twitter feed, Josh Ravin has been added to Peoria's roster.

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    Makes tons of sense. He missed much time and might have a chance in the pen. Will be a nice test while getting some work in.
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    Re: 2012 Arizona Fall League Discussion

    I am just hoping Ravin finds himself in a game where there is Pitch F/X running.

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    He is a free agent so I guess they have already re-signed him.


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