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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Cozart flies out to right

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Heiswy grounds into a 5-4 FC. 9-2 Reds.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Putting it on them, now.
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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    In honor of this early lead, I present to you the Houston Astros Play of the Day:
    http://deadspin.com/5939675/astros-p...os-injury-ever
    The slow-mo on that is worth a few chuckles, no doubt.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Phillips flies out to right. 9-2 Reds mid 8th.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    It's not a fundamental and frankly it doesn't even make sense.

    The first pitch is sometimes the best pitch a hitter is going to see in an at-bat. Why should a hitter let that pitch go for the sake of being patient? When you're down 0-2 or 1-2, you're giving the pitcher an advantage because you now have to protect the plate and sometimes swing at a borderline ball because you can't afford to let close pitches go by. So why waste a fastball down the middle, if you happen to see it early in the count, for the possibility of having to hit defensively? You're not guaranteed a walk, so you shouldn't go up to the plate expecting to force one.

    If a hitter gets a good pitch to hit early in the count, you should take it. That is not bad fundamentals, that is good hitting. Being patient for patience sake is not a good way to hit.
    Straw man. Nobody is saying anyone should be "patient for patience sake" or should let good, hittable pitches go by.

    Patience means waiting for a pitch you can handle. If the first pitch is in the zone and something you can handle you swing at it. Of course.

    But a hitter like Heisey swings at almost everything early in the count. He's overly aggressive. He may be "comfortable" doing so but it doesn't yield good results.

    He would be far better off being patient. And if waiting for a good pitch isn't fundamental, I don't know what is.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Simon in to pitch

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Valdez in to play short. Cairo in at 1st. Stubbs in center. Heisey in left.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Wallace doubles to right. Just beat the throw from Bruce

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Bruce darn near got another one at 2nd
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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Up in the zone. That's lethal for Simon.
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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post

    But a hitter like Heisey swings at almost everything early in the count. He's overly aggressive. He may be "comfortable" doing so but it doesn't yield good results.

    He would be far better off being patient. And if waiting for a good pitch isn't fundamental, I don't know what is.
    Not that I don't agree Heisey could be more patient, but he is sporting a .750 OPS and that's about his career average. He can run, bunt, play the field (even if he jumps at balls that aren't there sometimes).
    I'd say he has yielded good (but not great) results.
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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Castro singles to right. 1st and 3rd.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Paredes sac fly to center. 9-3 Reds.

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    Re: 8/31/12 - Reds at Astros

    Simon not missing any bats.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."


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