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    9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

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    Stubbs leading off and Valdez 2nd. Ooh boy.............


    1. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
    2. Wilson Valdez (R) SS
    ...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.

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    Honestly what does Valdez offer that Gregorious could not have done for even one start?
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Honestly what does Valdez offer that Gregorious could not have done for even one start?
    Veteranness

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Heisey must have expressed a severe distaste for merlots and Bob Marley.

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    Oh Boy.
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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.
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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Virginia Beach Reds View Post
    Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.
    Firstly, Baker has already said that Philips would bat leadoff when Votto was back.

    Secondly, the Reds are 4th in runs scored since the all star break with those two batting 1-2 and no Votto in the line up.

    Thirdly, an extended playoff run, in baseball, is as much a matter of luck than anything else. Look at the world series winners the last 15 years or so. If a lineup is good enough to get you to the playoffs, it's good enough to win you the world series.

    We'd all like to see high on base guys batting 1-2. But it's not obvious who those would be on this team.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Bow-tie Tuesday.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Virginia Beach Reds View Post
    Nothing like putting 2 sure outs at the top of the order, day in and day out. Looking forward to tomorrow with Votto in the lineup to see if BP is batting leadoff and to see who is batting #2. In my opinion, no chance at an extended playoff run with Stubbs and Valdez/Cozart batting in the top two spots.
    I agree on Stubbs, his season like last has disintegrated on offense and he's a liability in the batting order, really wherever he bats.

    I don't agree on Cozart being a "sure out." It's probably just Redszone hyperbole, but maybe we shouldn't be lumping these two guys together so much.

    Cozart has 32 doubles this year, to lead all MLB shortstops. He also has 15 homers and a slugging percentage over .400. Now, yes, his OBP is subpar and perhaps he's not ideal leading off, but he's been productive on offense for a SS.

    I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Rollins flies out to center.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Frandsen strikes out swinging.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Utley grounds out to 2nd. 0-0 mid 1st.

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    Re: 9/4/2012 Phils at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I think Phillips leading off and Cozart hitting second would be a reasonable one two punch. I'd prefer a lefty OBP man, but with the current group, this would be acceptable to me.
    I'd like to see, given the current roster, Phillips 1, Rolen/Frazier 2.

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