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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    This would be a fantastic game for the Reds to come back and win.

    /just sayin.
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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Bailey View Post
    May be a bit of semantics here Puffy, as I think we're on the same page, but I don't think it's necessarily a flaw in how xFIP is calculated. It could be a flaw in how useful it is, but not calculated. xFIP just tells us what a pitchers FIP would be if he had a league average FB/HR rate. On a player by player basis you can assess how meaningful that actually is, but that's all the number really tells us.
    I used the word "calculated" incorrectly.

    It's calculation is what it is. You really can't calculate it incorrectly as long as you can add and subtract.

    I meant how "xFIP is derived". If pitcher's HR/FB rates differ becuase of different skill sets (as opposed to luck), then there is (in my mind) a flaw in how xFIP is derived.

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    It would appear, based on the charting on At Bat, that Halladay is getting his standard on-deck circle to on-deck circle strike zone.

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    It would appear, based on the charting on At Bat, that Halladay is getting his standard on-deck circle to on-deck circle strike zone.
    Yep. The strike three call on Rodriquez was a good six inches off the plate. Not going to comeback with a strike zone like that.
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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    The HR rate does make sense as to his struggles. Look at today, 2 HR bringing in 5 runs. Though they were teeing off on him.
    Leake's a ground ball pitcher.
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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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    Leake's a ground ball pitcher.
    But if his HR/FB rate is high, that will erase the advantage of being a GB pitcher. Now will carry forward? I don't know.

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    Votto singles once again.
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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    Votto trying to beat Melky yet.

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

    can't stop Votto
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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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    Re: 9.5.12 Phillies @ Reds (the Start of the Didi Gregorius era and the Return of Vot

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