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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I agree no tests needed now...

    But I just went threw and watched the pitch sequence again. He was throwing 96-98 pre-home run.

    But after it was (off speed included) 95, 94, 84, 94, 93, 94, 84, 83

    May have been just mental?
    Possibly mental. Could've been any number of things. Baseball is a funny sport sometimes. One of the top two dominant closers in the game against the bottom of the lineup of the most inept offense in the game. And they score three runs. This game would be eating at me a lot more if we weren't up 8.5 .

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    Chris Welsh doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. I think he's a big part of the reason so many people are panicking. Chapman was just throwing 100 this week, so I don't know what games Welsh has been watching.
    Chris - former MLB pitcher
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    No offense, but I think he knows just a bit more.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    I remember a few years ago when Tampa still sucked, and they had the Yanks number. That's hardly the case here. We're 9-4 against Houston. Pretty solid lol. Chances are we win the next two games. You guys really just need to take a deep breath. You can't just assume we're going to sweep any team, no matter how bad they are.
    Let's call a spade a spade though. They are the New York Yankees. They've missed the playoffs once in the last 17 seasons. We've been to the playoffs exactly twice in that span. I'm not saying my negative feelings tonight are 100% justified, it is just one game, but I don't think the Reds exactly deserve the benefit of the doubt in regards to "oh they'll be perfectly fine", especially given their swift exit from the 2010 playoffs.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Red in Chicago View Post
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    No offense, but I think he knows just a bit more.
    It doesn't matter who knows more. Chris was wrong about Chapman not hitting 100. He just did on Tuesday (99.7 to be exact).
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Don't panic over the velocity... As many have stated, he's not pitched much as of lately, so there probably is some rustiness, plus there's a ton of moisture in the air, and I'm sure the temps have already started to change pretty dramatically at GABP from the start of game temps.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    I think the lackluster crowds, the September callups, the Votto return and the big division lead have thrown the club off the last week for some reason. Fortunately the starting staff (minus Leake's turd on Wed) has been fine.

    I think we'll see a wake up call for the offense. Somebody is gonna pay the next few days when this lineup gets it going again.

    ONly concern is if something is wrong with Chappy

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Red in Chicago View Post
    Chris - former MLB pitcher
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    No offense, but I think he knows just a bit more.
    Of course he knows more. But in this instance, he's dead wrong. He's a professional. He shouldn't make mistakes like that. Reds fans need to get over this "Woe is me" complex. It's not the lost decade anymore. Leave the past scars behind. Move on. Take a minute to rejoice in THE BIGGEST DIVISIONAL LEAD IN MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL instead of worrying about when we'll inevitably collapse.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    For the record, Chapman's velocity has been down a bit over his last five outings, including this one, going back to Aug 22.

    He was averaging over 99 on his fastball for most of the season, then had these outings

    96.5
    97.4
    97.6
    98
    and whatever tonight's average was.

    Definitely something that shouldn't be ignored.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    That trend isn't bad actually, but something was off tonight.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Let's call a spade a spade though. They are the New York Yankees. They've missed the playoffs once in the last 17 seasons. We've been to the playoffs exactly twice in that span. I'm not saying my negative feelings tonight are 100% justified, it is just one game, but I don't think the Reds exactly deserve the benefit of the doubt in regards to "oh they'll be perfectly fine", especially given their swift exit from the 2010 playoffs.
    I was just about to post something like this. They are starting to act like they are have it wrapped up. They can barely score runs anymore...... they did this in most of Sept 2010 as well.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    For the record, Chapman's velocity has been down a bit over his last five outings, including this one, going back to Aug 22.

    He was averaging over 99 on his fastball for most of the season, then had these outings

    96.5
    97.4
    97.6
    98
    and whatever tonight's average was.

    Definitely something that shouldn't be ignored.
    Do you realize his average for the entire season is 97.8?

    So basically prior to tonight, he was within .4, .2 and +.2 of his season average in the past three games.

    I'd say that absolutely should be ignored.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    I just can't understand why we can't enjoy the ride instead of freaking out about when it's going to all fall apart. So maybe this team won't win the World Series. Has it made this season a failure? Has it not been fun? Haven't we received so many wonderful memories and surprises already? Enjoy the ride guys. Stop living and dying on every game, every pitch.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by brutus View Post
    do you realize his average for the entire season is 97.8?

    So basically prior to tonight, he was within .4, .2 and +.2 of his season average in the past three games.

    I'd say that absolutely should be ignored.
    but he hasn't thrown 105 since last year! Something is horribly wrong!!!!

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by cincrazy View Post
    I just can't understand why we can't enjoy the ride instead of freaking out about when it's going to all fall apart. So maybe this team won't win the World Series. Has it made this season a failure? Has it not been fun? Haven't we received so many wonderful memories and surprises already? Enjoy the ride guys. Stop living and dying on every game, every pitch.
    Quit trying to bring logic into the situation...

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by oregonred View Post
    Quit trying to bring logic into the situation...
    Believe me, if you look logic up in the dictionary you won't see my picture, so not sure where this is coming from .


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