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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Listening over the internet...read it way before I hear it.
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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    I'm glad he made contact rather than striking out there.
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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Yes, but Leake has to pitch that way more frequently.

    There are games when Leake isn't quite the ground ball machine.

    It's a great skill, but he needs to be more consistent with it.
    His career GB/FB rate is 1.63. That's pretty difficult to maintain without some sort of consistency IMHO.
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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    And when just making contact ends up a 6-4-3?
    You're right. Contact is bad. It could turn out to be a double play.

    Sure.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    You're right. Contact is bad. It could turn out to be a double play.

    Sure.
    Well, if you look at the micro, a lot of assumptions can be made. Sometimes a k is better and sometimes contact is better, depending on the situation. Over a whole season...
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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    1-2-3 for Homer, that's more like it.
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    Well, if you look at the micro, a lot of assumptions can be made. Sometimes a k is better and sometimes contact is better, depending on the situation. Over a whole season...
    If you drive to a destination, you could also get in a car accident and never get there. But is that a reason to sit stationary and not go out?

    There's a risk in a lot of things we do, but if you didn't do things based on the small chance of the worst outcome happening, you'd not lead a very exciting life.
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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    His career GB/FB rate is 1.63. That's pretty difficult to maintain without some sort of consistency IMHO.
    Leake has allowed 23 homers this year. The most in the NL is Ian Kennedy with 27.

    That's not the hallmark of a true groundball pitcher IMO.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    1-2-3 inning for Harrell, AstrosZone probably saying "that's more like it".
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    Well, if you look at the micro, a lot of assumptions can be made. Sometimes a k is better and sometimes contact is better, depending on the situation. Over a whole season...
    Yes, contact can result in a double play. You are right.

    Thanks.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    I feel like 90% of Maxwell's homers have been against the Reds. I never feel comfortable when Bailey or Leake are on the mound.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Leake has allowed 23 homers this year. The most in the NL is Ian Kennedy with 27.

    That's not the hallmark of a true groundball pitcher IMO.
    He's got a 1.85:1 GB:FB ratio. That's 15th in the entire Major Leagues. I'd say that's absolutely the hallmark of a groundball pitcher.

    The homers are because of a 17% HR/FB rate, not because of giving up more fly balls. Only two pitchers in the majors have given up a higher rate of homers to fly balls allowed.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Homer got two quick outs, and then Paredes singles, a pickoff throw error advances him to second, and Wallace walks.


    Now Maxwell up again. He grounds out to 2nd on the first pitch.

    still 2-2
    I dont care, Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. Hes in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    1-2-3 inning for Harrell, AstrosZone probably saying "that's more like it".
    AstrosZone is a lifeless planet.

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    Re: 9/7/2012 Astros at Reds

    In wildcard news, Pittsburgh is losing to the Cubbies four-nil
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