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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    One and done would be a failure.


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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    I'm sure a similiar thread was being bantered aound in Boston and Atlanta this time last year!

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Accumulating more wins than any other team with the exception of one over the course of 6 months is not peaking.

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by Falcon7 View Post
    Now way this team plays .500 the rest of the regular season, .400 is more like it, that should still win the division and then 1 and done, I'm afraid.
    Might as well just stop following this season since you already know what's going to happen.

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Personally, a first round loss would not constitute a failur for the entire season though I understand that many would feel that way.

    To me, there are two seasons - the "big 162" in which teams are judged on th strength of their entire roster - where the fifth starter is important; reserves will have to fill in; and the bullpen must be relatively deep.

    Then there's the playoffs where anything can happen. You have to be good, but you also have to be lucky - in terms of matchups; who's hot in your lineup; how the other guys' rotation is doing; and a bit of luck. As we all know, the best teams don't always win in a short series format.

    So....in my mind, nothing that happens in October can take away what we've accomplished in the regular season - and nothing we did in the regular season means squat once the playoffs begin.

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by Biff Pocoroba View Post
    Personally, a first round loss would not constitute a failur for the entire season though I understand that many would feel that way.

    To me, there are two seasons - the "big 162" in which teams are judged on th strength of their entire roster - where the fifth starter is important; reserves will have to fill in; and the bullpen must be relatively deep.

    Then there's the playoffs where anything can happen. You have to be good, but you also have to be lucky - in terms of matchups; who's hot in your lineup; how the other guys' rotation is doing; and a bit of luck. As we all know, the best teams don't always win in a short series format.

    So....in my mind, nothing that happens in October can take away what we've accomplished in the regular season - and nothing we did in the regular season means squat once the playoffs begin.
    What he said.
    What if this is as good as it gets?

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Although I agree that we have had a nice bounce back year, if we go down in the first round of the playoffs this season is a failure IMO! But that's not a new opinion for me I've felt that way all along.

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    jback - I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, but for me personally, I'd use a different adjective. If we get dropped in the first round, I'd look at the season as a disappointment rather than a failure. What've we done to date is an accomplishment.

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by jback76 View Post
    Although I agree that we have had a nice bounce back year, if we go down in the first round of the playoffs this season is a failure IMO! But that's not a new opinion for me I've felt that way all along.
    I am not trying to be snarky, just asking for clarification. You say a first round loss makes this season a failure, so is there no difference between division champs with a first round loss and the Houston Astros? Because I would call the Astros season (and the Cubs, Rockies and Marlins seasons) a failure.
    What if this is as good as it gets?

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maker_84 View Post
    I dont care what anyone says, losing in the first round again would be a failure of a season
    I don't think failure means what you think it means. If this year is a failure, what was last year? Or 2005?

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    These type of discussions are why I take 2 week redzone sabbaticals.

    Second best record in baseball. Yes, we lost a home series against the hapless 'Stros, but these types of senseless dramatics belong in an Edward vs. that other sparkly dude forum.


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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain13 View Post
    I am not trying to be snarky, just asking for clarification. You say a first round loss makes this season a failure, so is there no difference between division champs with a first round loss and the Houston Astros? Because I would call the Astros season (and the Cubs, Rockies and Marlins seasons) a failure.
    Ok I'll change my words a bit. If the Reds don't do any better in the playoffs this year then they did in 2010, I will be totally disappointed. And I'm sure for a while (few days) will feel like the Reds failed. That first game no-hitter still stings when I think about it.

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    Quote Originally Posted by jback76 View Post
    Ok I'll change my words a bit. If the Reds don't do any better in the playoffs this year then they did in 2010, I will be totally disappointed. And I'm sure for a while (few days) will feel like the Reds failed. That first game no-hitter still stings when I think about it.
    This, I completely understand, and I don't care if it's Opening Day, or June, or Game 7 being no-hit is failing (doesn't make the season a failure, but it really sucks). I am very thankful I had a meeting that night and only saw the first three innings; I don't think I would've easily recovered from witnessing that.
    What if this is as good as it gets?

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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    "That first game no-hitter still stings when I think about it."

    The two errors on one play in the second game stings nearly as much. (not to mention the three plunked batters).

    PS: My boys still make fun of me for the spastic dance and maniacal cackle I let out when Phillips dropped the relay throw.
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    Re: Did the Reds just peak early?

    My original comment on peaking early was based on my concern that the Reds now have to get back on a winning streak to end the regular season with momentum, something that's important to win in the playoffs, something they had up until just a couple of weeks ago. Just now, they appear vulnerable as a team, and it's painfully obvious this can embolden even weak competitors.

    How the Reds will swing the momentum back in their favor is a bit of mystery to me -- it seems to come and go with the late summer storms that drift in and out of the Ohio Valley.

    Perhaps Baker needs to shake things up a bit more. Votto's return ceratinly has changed the team chemistry once again. I certainly shudder at the thought of a playoff roster that includes Leake, Stubbs, Mesaroco, Cairo and Valdez. In the playoffs, any MLB team can win and any team is only as strong as the weakest links. Right now, the Reds' weakest links appear to be consistent run production from core players and starting pitching that's reliable in the early innings. Hopefully, the recent relief pitching problem is just an aberration that will correct itself.

    By the way, I'm obviously a newbie here, but all season long, I've really enjoyed reading the forums for entertainment and insight.


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