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    What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

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    The general manager Reds GM Walt Jocketty

    Itís extremely important for a manager and general manager to have a good relationship. You donít have to be best friends, but you have to have communication and respect for each other and a good working relationship, because itís so vitally important to the success of the team and the organization. You talk about all those things we talked about how they handle certain situations but what it comes down to is how you interact with that person.



    Reds catcher Ryan Hanigan

    Itís impossible for anyone to know whatís going on inside a team if theyíre not around that team. Obviously, players speak of a manager one way or another, and you can get a feel of how they feel about managers across the board. Iíve played for Dusty for a lot of years, and heís been awesome. Before that, I wasnít here long enough to be entrenched in the team, but Dusty embodies those qualities (respect, trust). Heís definitely a playersí manager, we know he has our back. Thatís a great trait. If he has something to say, itís going to be private and respectful.

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    No. The only things that matter are lineup construction and when the manager chooses to bunt.

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    No. The only things that matter are lineup construction and when the manager chooses to bunt.
    Good thing that Thom or Chris isn't the manager then.

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    Dusty embodies those qualities (respect, trust). He’s definitely a players’ manager, we know he has our back. That’s a great trait. If he has something to say, it’s going to be private and respectful.
    You hear this just so consistently about Baker. It's a real strength.
    "Baseball is a very, very complex business. It's more of a people business than most businesses." - Bob Castellini

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    A 17-year veteran, Miguel Cairo has mostly been a backup player throughout his career. With all that time on the bench, heís had a chance to observe many managers and how they go about their jobs. The 38-year-old said he will be a manager when his playing career ends.

    Let Dusty walk, hire Cairo from in-house for peanuts.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    This is the prize takeaway if you ask me. Dusty on Dusty on managing a pro baseball team:

    The manager
    Despite managing nearly 3,000 games and winning three Manager of the Year awards, Dusty Baker is one of the most controversial and oft-criticized managers in the game. While fans blast Baker, more often than not, former players praise him for his abilities as a leader.

    "Your job is to get the best out of your talent and personnel that you have. You’re only as good as your personnel, but if you can get the best out of your personnel and keep them together and keep them playing on a daily basis. You’ve got to keep the right buttons and all this, but the right buttons only appear right if the players come through. It’s how you mesh your team together, how you hopefully have everybody pulling in the same direction with no envy, no jealousy, no selfishness. If you’re going to be a selfish player, you better be a hell of a player. You can accept that if they have such tremendous production. And how you handle the race, this is a long race we’re in, and sometimes you have to bite the bullet for them. Sometimes you have to tell the truth about them. It’s a rewarding job, but it’s a tough job.

    The bulk part of the job (the media, the fans) aren’t supposed to see. You don’t see the disciplinarian part, you don’t hear about it. The bulk of the job is when you have constant meetings with different guys. The bulk of the job now is to continue to teach guys because they get here so early. You’re teaching on a daily basis. Most of the time you have to assume they don’t know, but you can’t treat them like kids, you have to treat them like men. A lot of times you find out what they don’t know after a mistake. A lot of my job depends on the job my coaches do. Everyone has a department, and my job is to let them allow them to do their job and not micromanage them, but to be in charge of everything."
    Heck of an article by C Trent. It was like, real actual baseball reporting on the Reds. Huh!

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    Another important note, and us armchair folks won't like this, is that everyone nearest to the game agrees that a manager's job is anywhere from 50% to 98% unseen and unheard by the fans.

    It sort of renders the manager of the year award meaningless, but there are times I think it's pretty obvious who should get it.

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    Re: What the Insiders Say Makes a Good Manager by C. Trent Rosecrans

    I think Dusty and Jack McKeon are very similar managers and one of the better guys we've had since the Big Red Machine. The only one I'd rank higher is Davey Johnson


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