"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Who has argued that? Seriously.
The NCAA exhaustively investigated Cam's recruitment.
If the NCAA hadn't talked to Auburn about Memphis about a player Auburn signed, especially since Auburn was one of the schools that reported the transcript discrepancy despite the student athlete in question making it through both the NCAA's and Auburn's clearing house, THAT would be a story. In fact THAT would be a reason to get pitchforks and storm the castle.
But THAT was not what actually happened. Forde acted like he had a scoop by repackaging old news with a little new salacious salt mixed in to make it seem like he had a nefarious yarn to spin. But Forde failed to also discuss all of things that made his new soup taste mostly bland and unappealing.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
The NCAA is investigating Memphis area recruiting and if one really wanted to say a focus was upon any particular institution, then the correct assertion would've been that the NCAA is investigating Memphis area recruiting with a focus upon MSU. As part of that investigation, the NCAA has talked to all institutions that have signed players from a particular school so naturally Auburn officials would be questioned. To suggest that Auburn is the focus of an NCAA investigation is not absolutely correct based upon everything known publicly.
In a thread where the devils in the details have been treated with the utmost respect by some, almost like foreign dignitaries, its kind of surreal to see that spirit not be applied consistently.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Trooper Taylor is a legend in the making.
His name will forever go down as one of the shadiest characters in NCAA history. And that's a feat.
This is the time. The real Reds organization is back.
Um, no, just brushing off your comments as melodrama. I know where you stand on Auburn, you made that clear during the Cam Newton trials. There seems to be a strange blinding that goes on with college athletics fans, whether they are OSU or Auburn or any other school. It just affects folks ability to face reality. We are all guilty, even you.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
Jonathan Hankins is going pro. OSU will have to replace entire defensive line next year.
Witty signature.
I was right about Auburn though and there were reasons for chosing to stand where I stood that didn't have anything to do with a bias. Can others say where they stood was consistent with how the NCAA ruled about any of the programs being discussed in this thread? That isn't me calling anyone out. It's addressing the white elephant in the living room concerning the notion you're espousing above.
I don't defend things that don't deserve defense. If there was even a shred of a reason to believe Auburn was involved in having the transcripts of student athletes altered for purposes of defrauding the NCAA clearinghouse, i'd have a dramatically different take on Forde's tripe.
Last edited by jojo; 12-11-2012 at 11:09 AM.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
The NCAA doesn't have jurisdiction over Memphis. It has jurisdiction over its member schools. So prima facie, it stands to reason that it's investigating Auburn and not Memphis recruiting.
It might well be an investigation that involves multiple schools that were recruiting in the city of Memphis, but it's still inaccurate to suggest anything other than they're investing Auburn.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Actually the NCAA ruled that Cam's father DID solicit money -- an allegation that you staunchly denied. And the NCAA basically said that it could not prove no money changed hands, it just could not show that it did.
You went to great lengths to discredit the initial report by ESPN as being false and not having anything to do with Auburn. But as it turns out, the report that Cam's father was soliciting money in his recruitment was deemed to be accurate by the NCAA.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
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