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Thread: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    I do. Pitchers go through tough stretches also. Concluding that "he is tired, should be skipped, is ineffective because he needs rest" is reactionary. If he gets knocked around the yard tonight after 3 or 4 innings, then let's talk. But making conclusions after a rough 1st inning is a knee jerk reaction.

    Although it is the game thread, so knee jerk reactions are pretty common.
    I'd also leave it up to the powers that be. It could be a legitimate issue or it could be one of those things. The FO is likely aware of his struggles and I would guess that, if the feeling is that he is dragging a bit, he'll get some rest. But if their analysis is that he is throwing the same as he was a month ago, he might still be throwing throughout Sept.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Hanigan singles to left.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Good bunt as usual by Cueto.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Phillips strikes out swinging.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Valdez singles to left. 3-1 Marlins. Valdez's 2nd hit tonight.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Wilson with an RBI single to left scoring the slow moving Hanigan nonetheless. What are the odds

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Votto grounds out to 2nd. 3-1 Marlins mid 3rd.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Votto, Ludwick and Bruce could learn a thing or two from Valdez.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Wilson Valdez providing for the only signs of life in the offense right now.

    Dec. 21 can't get here fast enough.
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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Reyes pops out to 3rd.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    If you think about it, that first inning wasn't even that rough. Cueto got a ground ball, then a dink over Valdez, then a guy who's going to hit mistakes hard hit a mistake hard. After that he got a fly ball and an easy out to end the inning.

    I'm with Kelch though, in wondering why Cueto is gassing it up there in the first few innings. Something is playing on his mind.
    Sabermetrics is this: A batter's goal is to extend the inning. Extend enough innings and you're going to score runs. Extend more innings than your opponent and you're going to score more runs than him.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Stanton singles to left.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Lee pops out to 2nd.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Hanigan nails Stanton at 2nd. 3-1 Marlins after 3.

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    Re: 9/15/12 - Reds @ Marlins (More of Valdez and Stubbs)

    Terrific throw by Hanigan


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