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    Intentional walk to Stanton. Lee up with 2 on, 2 out.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    We need runs. Tie game. We get up and quit while the other team nibbles away. Drat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    We need runs. Tie game. We get up and quit while the other team nibbles away. Drat!
    I don't know that they 'quit'. They had a lot of base runners. Just didn't cash in enough.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    LeCure in.

    Lee flies out to center to end the inning. But it's a 4-4 game to the 9th.
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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    I don't know that they 'quit'. They had a lot of base runners. Just didn't cash in enough.
    What I meant. They didn't mean to quit scoring but they did.
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    If the Reds lose the pundits will say that the offense didn't come through enough with men on base.

    IMO, Dusty just left Latos in too long.

    Pitch count doesn't tell the whole story. He has a slew of relievers available and there's no reason to push Latos in a game like this, especially after the Marlins got the lead off hitter on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If the Reds lose the pundits will say that the offense didn't come through enough with men on base.

    IMO, Dusty just left Latos in too long.

    Pitch count doesn't tell the whole story. He has a slew of relievers available and there's no reason to push Latos in a game like this, especially after the Marlins got the lead off hitter on.
    Agree. It happens over and over. Mostly successful, but no reason for it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    If the Reds lose the pundits will say that the offense didn't come through enough with men on base.

    IMO, Dusty just left Latos in too long.

    Pitch count doesn't tell the whole story. He has a slew of relievers available and there's no reason to push Latos in a game like this, especially after the Marlins got the lead off hitter on.
    To be honest, I think Dusty was in a tough position no matter what. Fact is the Reds should have had a bigger lead. I was fine with leaving Latos in to start the 8th because while I trust Marshall/Broxton, it's not terribly hard to give up a single run against the home team with 2 innings left. The Marlins showed that with the base hit and sac bunt.


    That said, he probably should have brought in a reliever to face Reyes.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Agree. It happens over and over. Mostly successful, but no reason for it at all.
    With a September bullpen, the Reds could select a matchup for every Marlin player in the late innings. None of the relievers are overworked, it's easy to mix and match them.

    Nothing to be achieved by leaving in Latos, he doesn't need the work, he doesn't need the confidence boost, no reason.

    So he only had 95 pitches, let him have a 95 pitch day.

    Just disappointing to see the Reds constantly in trouble in this series.

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    Re: 9/16/12 Reds at Marlins

    Cishek in

    Ludwick flies out to left
    Bruce strikes out
    Frazier flies out to right


    Gotta say, the sweep here seems inevitable.
    Last edited by Tom Servo; 09-16-2012 at 04:18 PM.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/16/12 Reds at Marlins

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    With a September bullpen, the Reds could select a matchup for every Marlin player in the late innings. None of the relievers are overworked, it's easy to mix and match them.

    Nothing to be achieved by leaving in Latos, he doesn't need the work, he doesn't need the confidence boost, no reason.

    So he only had 95 pitches, let him have a 95 pitch day.

    Just disappointing to see the Reds constantly in trouble in this series.
    I don't know if there is a statistic like this, but I'd like to know how many times we've run the starter out there in late innings only to have to replace them during the inning because the opposition mounted a rally. Would be interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Agree. It happens over and over. Mostly successful, but no reason for it at all.
    Am I misunderstanding you? If it is mostly successful wouldn't that be the reason for it?

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    I gotta' say, I'm getting pretty aggravated with this team. In 2010, when just making it to the playoffs was good enough after not seeing post season play for 15 years, I don't want to settle for just "good enough" this season. I know this team is a far more capable team than what they're showing themselves to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dman View Post
    I know this team is a far more capable team than what they're showing themselves to be.
    I'll agree with this. They seem to be basically half-assing so far in September. I get that it's hard to build up a sense of urgency when it's not really there, but still.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbrake View Post
    Am I misunderstanding you? If it is mostly successful wouldn't that be the reason for it?
    I'm guessing it has been. I'd like to know for sure.
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