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    Yeesh.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Caught a break there...
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    This ain't Dusty's fault!

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Someone should get benched after falling asleep on second base..horrible.
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Don't score runs......pitching good.... score runs, pitching bad. Most annoying thing to watch.

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    This ain't Dusty's fault!
    True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Don't score runs......pitching good.... score runs, pitching bad. Most annoying thing to watch.
    Leake not pitching bad....the Cubs ran into some balls. Should be 5-3...Heisey was totally responsible for run #4
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.

    From where? The hospital? He is not even there

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    From where? The hospital? He is not even there



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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    wOBA and OPS are composite stats. IMO they do not tell the whole story without further analysis. Heisey's lifetime OPS, including his homer barrage last year, is .766. It's fine, but the OBP part is .316.

    I think the Reds' centerfielder should have a .350 OBP, not .316. I think Joey Votto becomes a 125 RBI man with better tablesetters. I see CF on this team as a tablesetting position given the mix of players on this team.

    On a power starved team, Heisey probably is a good pickup, he has good power and other skills. For the Reds, I'd prefer a CFer who hits at the top of the order and gets on base more.
    I'm still not sure what you're getting at. OPS and wOBA both take into account both OBP and slugging. Sure, OBP carries slightly more weight than does slugging, but that's accounted for in wOBA and his career wOBA against RHP is .349. That's very, very good. The average CF in the majors is less than .330.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post



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    Maybe Dr. Killdare made the call from the bench?

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    True, but one would think after a while that he'd catch on to the usual song and dance of Leake and have a quicker hook.
    I've posted the numbers before, but Leake's 75-pitch-plus splits relative to his own averages are actually above average.
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Free

    DiDi !!!
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
    Free

    DiDi !!!
    From what?
    "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Clemente, Berra, Ken Griffey Sr, Dave Concepcion and Vlad Guerrero would never be able to play for you. You really are taking the ..... a hitter has to always take pitches...to the extreme.
    Nonsense.

    Clemente lifetime OBP .359.
    Griffey Sr. lifetime OBP .359.
    Berra lifetime OBP .348.
    Guerrero lifetime OBP .379.

    Even Concepcion, a shortstop known for great defense, .322.

    Chris Heisey's lifetime OBP is .316. His plate discipline is the reason. I want an entirely different type of hitter for the Reds' CF.


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