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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Actually, while neither Clemente nor Berra walked that much, Heisey's walk rate is lower than both of them.

    And frankly to mention Heisey in the same sentence as these great hitters is kind of a joke. Yes, some guys can be great hitters not walking that much.

    I happen to think Heisey is not one of them.

    So while you are looking for Heisey to turn into Roberto Clemente, I'd prefer a centerfielder with good plate discipline who gets on base frequently.


    I know that it is bad to compare those 2..... it was the only two i could think of right away....

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Ball Four.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Jose's control is horrible.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    I thought they gave up on giving Jose ...high leverage innings. Is this not Hoover's spot now?

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Jose's control is horrible.
    And when he has to go to his fastball for a strike it gets hammered at times.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Arredondo on the mound
    why this guy does not trust his stuff more is mind numbing...he picks and picks and falls behind, then either walks or gives up a big hit...throw strikes..
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    This has the feeling of one of those games that should not get me irate when it ends the way it does being so close to clinching the division, but will anyhow.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Wow. 51 Ks in 103 at bats... That could make Drew Stubbs blush.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    I thought they gave up on giving Jose ...high leverage innings. Is this not Hoover's spot now?
    It definitely should be.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    I agree KC that i would rather have someone else than these 2......but i also would rather have Heisey in there over Stubbs more.

    Let Stubbs try playing LF after sitting on the bench all night and see how fresh he is.

    His speed makes up for a lot of his misjudging of balls.
    I want the Reds to get a new CFer. If they want to keep one of Stubbs or Heisey as a platoon or backup, fine. If they want to keep neither, also fine.

    Stubbs makes sense as a platoon against LHP, but it's really not that important. The main thing is to get a new primary guy for that position.

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    And when he has to go to his fastball for a strike it gets hammered at times.
    Most all pitchers that fall behind get their fastballs hammered...don't fall behind...trust your stuff and defense...
    Not this year...maybe a Wild Card

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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Speaking of blowing leads... the Nationals have tied the Dodgers 6-6. That was 6-0 earlier.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Not pretty, but a great catch by Jay
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
    Most all pitchers that fall behind get their fastballs hammered...don't fall behind...trust your stuff and defense...
    True, but having some giddyup on it improves your chances a bit. Jose's fastball isn't nearly what I thought it would be when The Reds brought him over from the Los Angeles Angels of Portland of Orange County of whatever they are.
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    Re: 9/19/12 - Reds at Cubs

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    True, but having some giddyup on it improves your chances a bit. Jose's fastball isn't nearly what I thought it would be when The Reds brought him over from the Los Angeles Angels of Portland of Orange County of whatever they are.
    Jose's ok for the sixth or seventh inning. Three outs.


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