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    How Biased Is Your Announcer?

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...376246198.html

    Prompted by Ken Harrelson's unabashed homerism, the Journal decided to watch one nine-inning game played by every major-league team to evaluate its local broadcasters for bias. To keep things simple, we only evaluated home games that the home teams won.

    By the rules of our study, anyone with a microphone who used a pronoun like "we," "us" or "our" to describe the home team was given a citation. Obscure pet names for players were also flagged: The Detroit Tigers announcers, for instance, referred to backup catcher Gerald Laird as "G-Money." Additional penalties were given for things like excessive moping after miscues or unrestrained glee after big moments. (A Miami Marlins broadcaster marked the end of a lengthy scoreless drought by screaming "Hallelujah!")

    It didn't take long for the study to confirm what many baseball observers have long expected. During the White Sox game—a 2-1 win against the Texas Rangers—Harrelson and Stone (but mostly Harrelson) made a whopping 104 biased statements.

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    Would this study have "crashed" had they examined a Reds tilt in St Louis with George Grande calling the play by play?

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    Stretch! Stretch! May be the dumbest home run call I've ever heard.

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    The Mets and Yankees are interesting. I know from experience what homers their announcers often are, though with the Mets it's mostly coming from Hernandez as I think Thorne and Darling are great. I think it's just a case where it's more in attitude (ie: moping when their team is down, putting down the other team, etc) than in action (referring to 'us', 'we', etc).
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    The White Sox have more citations than the next seven offenders combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    The White Sox have more citations than the next seven offenders combined.
    Ken Harrelson is announcing everything in my version of hell

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    Even the Mets announcers don't want to be associated their team. The Yankees TV team is somewhat neutral, the radio team (John Sterling) is a big time homer.
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    Never understood this concept of an "objective" announcer for local networks. Its not like regular local news journalists or announcers for national broadcasts. Local network announcers are paid for by the Teams and you want to see someloca slant and some flair to them. You want them to build interest and enthusiam for the home team.

    You would hope they would have enough objectivity to tell it like it is, but being a homer? That's part of the job description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    You would hope they would have enough objectivity to tell it like it is, but being a homer? That's part of the job description.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Vin Scully called....
    To each their own. I think strict objectivity is not necessary in a local announcer nor should it be expected.
    Last edited by corkedbat; 09-25-2012 at 08:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    To each their own. I think strict objectivity is not necessary in a local announcer nor should it be expected.
    Sure it's fine when the team is doing well, but I couldn't stand listening to Marty and Thom when the Reds were doing poorly. They can really beat a dead horse about something they see that they don't like. I can see they're bad. I don't need the announcers harping on it the entire game. Nobody plays the indignant man like the Brennemans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    Sure it's fine when the team is doing well, but I couldn't stand listening to Marty and Thom when the Reds were doing poorly. They can really beat a dead horse about something they see that they don't like. I can see they're bad. I don't need the announcers harping on it the entire game. Nobody plays the indignant man like the Brennemans.
    You try enthusiastically calling 162 games a year over 10 years with brutal teams!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yachtzee View Post
    Sure it's fine when the team is doing well, but I couldn't stand listening to Marty and Thom when the Reds were doing poorly. They can really beat a dead horse about something they see that they don't like. I can see they're bad. I don't need the announcers harping on it the entire game. Nobody plays the indignant man like the Brennemans.
    Yes.. case in point.. Last year, Marty made it his mission to mention that Stubbs was leading the league in strikeouts .. He would mention it about 100 times/game it seemed.
    Even when the team is doing well.. Marty seems to take pleasure whenever Homer, Bruce, or Stubbs fails to "come through". He also enjoyed running Chapman down the previous two years.. Marty obviously thought Chapman was a "Waste of money" and took great pleasure at beating into the ground Chapman's control problems when they happened".

    Even this year, I've had to turn the game off at times.. One game, the Reds had bases loaded in an early inning and didn't score.. Marty reminded us of that failure about 8 more times before I turned off the radio. He can not retire soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    To each their own. I think strict objectivity is not necessary in a local announcer nor should it be expected.
    Ah, there it is. Yes, this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Never understood this concept of an "objective" announcer for local networks. Its not like regular local news journalists or announcers for national broadcasts. Local network announcers are paid for by the Teams and you want to see someloca slant and some flair to them. You want them to build interest and enthusiam for the home team.

    You would hope they would have enough objectivity to tell it like it is, but being a homer? That's part of the job description.
    Totally agree. To me, a local announcer should be pulling for the locals. Just don't fail to point out the greatness of the other side and the shortcomings of "our" side.
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