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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    The Reds have never had a pitcher win the Cy Young award, but they have had a pitcher win the MVP. 1939 - Bucky Walters.

    In the 1990 World Series the Reds had 5 different pitchers who didn't give up any earned runs. Norm Charlton - 1 IP, Scott Scudder - 1.1 IP, Randy Myers - 3 IP, Jack Armstrong - 3 IP, and Rob Dibble - 4.2 IP.

    The first NL player to ever play DH was the Reds' Dan Driessen in the 1976 World Series.

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    It took all the way until 1938 for the Reds to have a 30 HR Hitter when Ival Goodman hit 30. That year Goodman was also the first Red to hit 20, a figure he'd achieved at the All Star break. The story is that Goodman hurt his shoulder running into the OF wall at some point in that season and never hit 20 HR again.

    Ernie Lombardi, with 20 HR in 1939, was the next Red to hit 20 HR. It took until 1948, when Hank Sauer hit 35, for another player to hit 30+ and break Goodman's team record.
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    Some more firsts: First televised game in MLB was a doubleheader between the Reds and the Dodgers on August 26, 1939 at Ebbet's Field. The Reds won the first game and dropped the second.

    In 1934 the Reds were the first team to fly to an away game. They beat the Cubs in Chicago 4-3.
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    With one of Bob Howsom's most overlooked solid deals, Howsom took a disastrous deal--Tony Perez to Montreal in '76--and turned it into a positive by shipping Woodie Fryman and a young Bill Caudill to the Cubs for Bill Bonham, who pitched well for the Reds until injuries ended his career in the heat of the '80 pennant race.

    Speaking of Bonham, following the conclusion of his career, he and his wife were rescued from the top of a burning casino in Vegas. Gary Nolan was actually employed by said casino as a card-dealer, but wasn't on duty at the time.
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    We.

    Speaking of Bonham, following the conclusion of his career, he and his wife were rescued from the top of a burning casino in Vegas. Gary Nolan was actually employed by said casino as a card-dealer, but wasn't on duty at the time.
    Tom Hume and his wife were with them.
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    With one of Bob Howsom's most overlooked solid deals, Howsom took a disastrous deal--Tony Perez to Montreal in '76--and turned it into a positive by shipping Woodie Fryman and a young Bill Caudill to the Cubs for Bill Bonham, who pitched well for the Reds until injuries ended his career in the heat of the '80 pennant race.

    Speaking of Bonham, following the conclusion of his career, he and his wife were rescued from the top of a burning casino in Vegas. Gary Nolan was actually employed by said casino as a card-dealer, but wasn't on duty at the time.
    I'd say that Bill Caudill ended up giving quite a bit more value to his teams after the trade than Bonham gave to the Reds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    We.

    Speaking of Bonham, following the conclusion of his career, he and his wife were rescued from the top of a burning casino in Vegas. Gary Nolan was actually employed by said casino as a card-dealer, but wasn't on duty at the time.
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    The Reds until the early 20's were partly owned by the Fleischmans Brothers, who owned a giant booze company (along with their yeast business)

    They sold their shares to one group and sold their booze company to George Remus (the famous bootlegger and Boardwalk Empire character)
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Larry MacPhail 1936: he sent the Reds to San Juan, Puerto Rico, for part of their spring training.

    The next year he got fired for slugging Crosley, whilst he was in the cups

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    I'd say that Bill Caudill ended up giving quite a bit more value to his teams after the trade than Bonham gave to the Reds.
    True, but the Reds clearly won this deal with the Cubs.

    Fryman alone wasn't going to get the deal done. Save for 1980, Caudill didn't distinguish himself with the Cubs at all, and the Cubs then dealt him, along with Jay Howell, to the NYY for a young Pat Tabler, who bombed as a Cub.

    The Reds only finished 3.5 games back in '80. Had Bonham, who pitched really well in '78 and '79 been healthy in '80, the Reds likely repeat as N.L West champs in '80.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Of course the game was different then. But in a 12-team NL, 27 players that year hit 21 or more HRs, six of which hit 30 or more. The Reds were led by someone who hit 17. That's by far the fewest to lead a Reds team since then. (Or not. As Puffy and WOY pointed out, Dave Parker led the Reds with just 16 the very next season. I'm an idiot. That is all.)
    Paul O'Neill led the Reds in HR's in 1992 with 14.
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    The Reds twice tried to bring Babe Ruth into the fold, but were unsuccessful:

    December 29, 1933 - Yankees refuses to release Babe Ruth so he can manage the Cincinnati Reds

    March 9, 1936 - Babe Ruth turns down Reds to make a comeback as a player
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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    True, but the Reds clearly won this deal with the Cubs.
    Clealy?

    Bonham gave the Reds 3.1 WAR over two and abit seasons.

    Caudill gave Chicago 4.1 over 2 seasons (10.7 in his career). Plus brought Pat Tabler in a trade.

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    Re: Tell us something about the Reds we may not know

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Clealy?

    Bonham gave the Reds 3.1 WAR over two and abit seasons.

    Caudill gave Chicago 4.1 over 2 seasons (10.7 in his career). Plus brought Pat Tabler in a trade.
    Ah, but you failed to mention Caudill's -0.8 1981 season WAR or Fryman's 1978 (He was dealt to Montreal for Jerry White mid-season) -0.5 WAR. And, as I mentioned, Tabler bombed in Chicago, and the Cubs being the Cubs, dealt him before he matured as a player.

    Add the factors together, shake well, and there is no way that the Cubs won this deal. At worst, much like the Dave Collins for Shane Rawley deal that same off-season, it was a Live Now-Pay Later deal and, obviously nowhere close to the magnitude of Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz or Juan Guzman for B.J Ryan, for that matter.
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