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Brutus, the rule says immediately. For the benefit of the runners. Period.
It says it again under the rule as a comment.
The infield fly is in no sense to be considered an appeal play. The umpires judgment must govern, and the decision should be made immediately.
It can be apparent 10 seconds before an infielder catches it or one second. It does not matter when it's apparent.
The rule of thumb on an infield fly is wait until the ball is at its peak, look where the fielder is and if his feet are reasonably still then call in an infield fly. I don't think his feet were reasonably still.
I think where Holbrook screwed up was in his judgement. Keeping in mind the spirit of the rule where the rule wont allow balls to be intentionally dropped for a double play, no way would a fielder that far out intentionally drop a ball to get a double play.
I have had games where whether it was the wind blowing or the fielders were just horrible, I wouldn't call it an infield fly even if it was ready to land on the pitchers rubber. The fielder has to be camped out under the ball and he wasn't.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
You're reading all these parts of the rule, read that word.
If you have to wait to see if it's routine, it isn't routine.
The rule is for the runner, not the SS.
I don't know why that's so difficult. It doesn't matter when it becomes apparent. And the comments of the rules also say that it only has to be judged that the infielder could have made a play on it regardless of why he didn't or why an outfielder makes a play.
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The umpire is taught to wait, and if at any point before the ball drops he believes the ball could have been caught by an infielder with ordinary effort, then it's an infield fly. He only has to make the call when it's apparent, and it does not have to be apparent (so long as the infielder is giving an ordinary effort) until right before the ball drops.
Jogging or back pedaling is generally considered ordinary effort by interpretation. That's how it's always been taught in classes and how umpires judge effort. If an infielder doesn't have to sprint to the ball or isn't going to have to lay out to get under it, it's considered an ordinary effort. You're not arguing with me, you're actually arguing with how umpires are trained to enforce the rule.
It's sounds like (the point is) that all umps would make the same call based off of their official training. This (is) obviously false. Based on feedback from other umps here and on TV.
(edited for clarity, but Brutus got my point)
Last edited by GullyFoyle; 10-05-2012 at 10:24 PM.