If that's the correct call then the rule has not been applied equally around the league. Any dropped ball in the outfield due to miscommunication would be an IF out.
If that's the correct call then the rule has not been applied equally around the league. Any dropped ball in the outfield due to miscommunication would be an IF out.
Originally Posted by MLB Rule 2.0
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Umpires are taught to be patient before calling it. It actually is recommended that the umpire waits to make sure an ordinary effort can be made. The umpire waited to see that the shortstop was able to get under the ball, which he did, and he called it. That's actually the right mechanics.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Brutus, respectfully, I think you're being contrarian here.
It has to be called immediately. The ball was just above Kozma's head when it was called.
In the reply its also clear the shortstop stopped before the Ump signaled.
No it absolutely does not. In fact, umpires are taught to wait to make that call. I'm not being contrarian... it's the right call by rule.
The shortstop got under the ball with ordinary effort. That's all that matters. It doesn't matter how soon or how late the umpire made the call. In fact, they're supposed to wait until they're sure it will require ordinary effort. The shortstop was literally under the ball and got away from it thinking the LF was calling him off. That's ordinary effort despite the mix-up with his own guy.
Actually, I'd say that you're being a contrarian considering you're basically complaining that an umpire followed the rulebook and are upset because you are assuming the timing of the call makes any difference. It actually does not.
Last edited by Brutus; 10-05-2012 at 08:52 PM.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
David Wells pointed out that if the umpire had called it right away, the man on second probably scores and its 6-4 with a man on second.
"I never argue with people who say baseball is boring, because baseball is boring. And then, suddenly, it isn't. And that's what makes it great." - Joe Posnanski
Folks, the umpire is SUPPOSED to wait to make that call. It's not an immediate call unless it's immediately obvious.
The fact the umpire waited to make the call does not make it a bad call. In fact, it means he actually did exactly what he was taught to do.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
If the only problem with the call was "miscommunication", then I expect to see a lot more "miscommunication" between outfielders with runners on and less than 2 outs in 2013.
-Matt
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