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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    On short rest...
    I'd take Arroyo and Latos on short rest over Mike Leake on any amount of rest.
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    And I think that is probably the right call.....

    I hate to burn the pen all the way up today or run a combo of Latos/Arroyo out there on short rest....
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    If they're still not sure on Cueto, I bet they DL someone else though.
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    I bet the Reds rue the decision to not put Leake on the roster to start the LDS.

    You dance withe the one who brung you. Latos as long as he can go with LeCure pitching multiple innings.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Leake on a short leash. Latos or LeCure or Simon ready to go right away.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    If Cueto can't go today, I think you have to go Leake. You can't got Lecure or Simon for fear of burning up your entire pen in a game 4. I'd much, much rather have Latos in game 5 on full rest than take the chance of burning him game 4 in short rest and have no idea who I throw in 5.
    While I'm not a fan of burning up the pen, would it be reasonable to burn up the three "long relievers" (Lecure, Simon, Arrendondo) today but have Arroyo ready to go in relief tomorrow as a worst case scenario?
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by OesterPoster View Post
    Leake on a short leash. Latos or LeCure or Simon ready to go right away.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Fox Sports is showing a Zito vs. Latos matchup on their preview.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    If you have to lose Cueto because he's probably not available for next series, I'm in the "Leake on a short leash" camp. You don't want to put all your eggs in the short rest basket, gotta keep Latos in your hip pocket for Game 5. We should be able to get some runs off Zito and a SF bullpen that just used two key guys for two innings last night.

    If it is Leake, then that pretty much tells us that the Cueto injury was making him unlikely available for the next series anyhow. Hopefully we get good Leake for 5, get a lead, and try to ride the bullpen home.
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by dman View Post
    Fox Sports is showing a Zito vs. Latos matchup on their preview.
    I saw on twitter that the Reds were going to DL Cueto and it would be Leake.
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    I saw on twitter that the Reds were going to DL Cueto and it would be Leake.
    I saw that too. That's not a good sign for the rest of the playoffs. If they don't even think he can come back for a game 5 or 6, which wouldn't be for another 10-12 days, I can't imagine they expect to have him at all.

    That said, I realize it's probably Leake, but I'm still throwing my two cents in for Latos. Short rest after a short outing, but I have no doubt he would be a better option than Leake. And Arroyo has proven he's fine on three days rest if there's a Game 5. If Latos shows any sign of struggle (he won't), warm LeCure up.
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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    I would go with Latos and Lecure to cover 7 innings or so for today. It's hard to be confident in Leake right now. Then Arroyo tomorrow.

    Many of us suggested keeping Leake on the roster because he provides flexibility as a starter, long man, even a pinch hitter or runner. They should have done this IMO.

    If it's Leake, let's hope he has a great game.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    I think Latos could go 80 pitches at least. I hope these hitters have not reverted back to swing for the fences mode here. They were taking great swings and working counts better in SF. They should be patient with Zito and hit him but of course...I can see Leake being hit as well.

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    Re: Who Pitches Game 4?

    Anyone else notice the irony that we don't have a starting pitcher miss a start all year ... and then our ace gets hurt 0.1 innings into the first playoff game.

    Oh well, we're still in the driver's seat. Let's finish off the Giants today/tonight.


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