Turn Off Ads?
Page 2 of 4 FirstFirst 1234 LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 54

Thread: Who will start Game 4?

  1. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    67

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Latos only threw 57 pitches the other day. So even though he is on 3 days rest, it's not like he threw 110 pitches and is coming back in 3 days. I believe if we don't win Game 4, then we are done, no matter who pitches Game 5. I just don't see us beating Cain again. The guy is just so good.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    254

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by BLark = HOF View Post
    Latos only threw 57 pitches the other day. So even though he is on 3 days rest, it's not like he threw 110 pitches and is coming back in 3 days. I believe if we don't win Game 4, then we are done, no matter who pitches Game 5. I just don't see us beating Cain again. The guy is just so good.
    Cain is good, but the reds have seem to have his number. 0-3. Don't forget we beat him in GABP as well. Plus Latos is a giants killer, if anything, it'll be kept close (one would hope)

    Let's just focus on winning tomorrow so a Game 5 isn't even a theoretical possibility.

  4. #18
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Ohio
    Posts
    1

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    I don't think Cueto is coming back for the NLCS with an oblique strain. If it's very, very mild, maybe he can pitch game 6 or 7. That's doubtful, with the way he does that half turn in his windup. I hope I'm wrong, but there's a good chance he won't be back for the World Series either based what I've read on recovery time for others who've had this type of injury.

    I think the Reds will have to DL him and go with Leake. Latos on short rest again and then potentially Arroyo also on short rest seems too risky if this goes five games. If you still hold out hope for Cueto in the NLCS, maybe you can take your chances on getting three innings each out of LeCure and Simon. I'd prefer to save Latos to face Cain in a game 5 either way. I don't like the idea of asking someone else on the team to fake an injury and lie about it under MLB scrutiny.

  5. #19
    '19 '40 '75 '76 '90
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    782

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    I'd go with Latos. Dude is a stub and will nail it down before do-or-die time sets in.

    Or you could start Chapman..

    From what I read it's going to me Mike though and I haven't a lot of confidence in him to show his best stuff. Just a gut feeling. Frazier should start @ 3rd. I hope game 5 isn't necessary.
    Last edited by Reds; 10-10-2012 at 04:30 AM.

  6. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Cincinnati
    Posts
    1,174

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds View Post
    I'd go with Latos. Dude is a stub and will nail it down before do-or-die time sets in.

    Or you could start Chapman..

    From what I read it's going to me Mike though and I haven't a lot of confidence in him to show his best stuff. Just a gut feeling. Frazier should start @ 3rd. I hope game 5 isn't necessary.
    There's no way you could start Chapman... He's been pitching relief all year, and wouldn't last more than two innings. Dusty didn't even trust him to pitch the 10th in game 3, plus he had to sit for more than a week to regain his velocity at the end of the season. His arm isn't ready for that.

    The best choice is Leake. The Giants seem to have trouble with soft tossing tricksters (Arroyo), and he'll be on a short leash anyway. Worst case scenario Leake gives up a few in 5 innings and Simon or Lecure comes in.

    If we lose, we have Latos rested for game 5... and this team is NOT going to lose... bank on it.

  7. #21
    '19 '40 '75 '76 '90
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    North Carolina
    Posts
    782

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Chapman comment was a joke.

    I do worry about Leake but only if he gets in a jam early.

  8. #22
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    199

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    The pitching matchup section of the NY Post shows Latos as the starter, so I'm going with that. The NY Post is NEVER wrong!

  9. #23
    Pimpin...literally!!! dubc47834's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Terre Haute, In
    Posts
    1,504

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Biff Pocoroba View Post
    The pitching matchup section of the NY Post shows Latos as the starter, so I'm going with that. The NY Post is NEVER wrong!
    That's who I would go with. Get the series over with before it gets to Cain. If we can get at least 5 outa Latos then turn it over to the pen I would call it a success.

  10. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Columbus
    Posts
    733

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    I don't like any of the options. If you start Leake, that means that Cueto is out for the NCLS which just makes me sick to my stomach. But running Latos out there on short rest is a scary thing too, and leave you in a bind for game 5.

    Thinking outside the box, how about starting LeCure and hoping for 4-5 innings out if him and turning it over to the pen?
    Sto Pro Veritate

  11. #25
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    199

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by dubc47834 View Post
    That's who I would go with. Get the series over with before it gets to Cain. If we can get at least 5 outa Latos then turn it over to the pen I would call it a success.
    Would normally agree but then again, I said the same thing yesterday about Bailey. He exceeded that...and we STILL lost!

  12. #26
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Louisville, KY via Orlando, FL
    Posts
    426
    Since there are no good options for game 4, I say save Latos for game 5.
    "Why's he keep callin' me meat? I'm the guy drivin' a Porsche." - Calvin LaLoosh

    Moneyball = Mulder, Hudson, Zito

  13. #27
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Posts
    199

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    My gut says go with Latos tonight. He's the best pitcher we have - and he showed on Saturday that he doesn't get rattled when he's thrown off his routine.

    With Latos, we have a favorable pitching matchup tonight. I don't want to see Matt Cain in a game five.

  14. #28
    ZCTRMTP!!!!! texasdave's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    10,824

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    As long as Zito starts in Game 4 it is all systems go.
    A summer watching a bad Reds' team, is still a pretty good summer.

  15. #29
    Member redsrolen's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    233

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    It's official...it's Mike Leake!!

  16. #30
    Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Liberty Township
    Posts
    164

    Re: Who will start Game 4?

    I don't think losing Cueto for NLCS should factor into the NLDS starter decision because:
    1) If you are pitching Cueto in the NLCS, it should be game 4 of NLCS to give him max rest before you use him, so he would only pitch 1 game of NLCS.
    2) If you are pitching Cueto in the NLCS, then Leake is on the roster, because you need to plan to have him for an all hands on deck situation in Game 4 if Cueto falters. So you might get Leake pitching NLCS game 4 any way.

    Given those 2 condition, I think they should sacrifice the possibility of Cueto pitching game 4 of NLCS and DL him, then you get the best 2 options of winning a 3rd game in the NLDS. Leake vs Zito and Latos versus Cain at this point are the 2 matchups possibilities that give Reds best chance of winning a 3rd NLDS game. Without that 3rd NLDS win, the NLCS conversation never takes place.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25