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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    2. Most teams go with a 3-man rotation anyway in the postseason.
    Not really. Most teams use a 4 man rotation. The Giants did.
    The Giants didn't panic and start Cain on short rest.

    Starting Leake was the right idea, IMO. It gave us the best chance to split the last 2 games.

    Even if Cain has his "A" game, Latos has the ability to match him.
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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    * He was completely left off the NLDS roster -- it's evident how the team felt abot him.

    * Latos only pitched four innings on Saturday. He EASILY could have pitched on 3 days rest. It's not like he had a 100+ pitch outing last time out. This would not have been the typical "3 days rest."

    * Very often in playoffs, teams go with a 3-man rotation anyway.

    * Playing to set yourself up well for Game 5 or setting yourself up for the NLCS is a great way to lose Game 4. You need to go for the kill when you can.

    Latos was the obvious call. Ridiculous that Leake was given the start. Way to overthink this one!
    Hindsight is 20/20. If you start Latos and he struggles, then what?

    I'd rather have Leake and Latos on full rest than Latos and Arroyo on short rest.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Not sure starting him was the issue. Still having him in the 5th inning to get shelled again was just comical. Then pinch hitting with Cairo? Seriously? Why is he on the roster again? I'm just glad Ondrusek wasn't around to be put in...Navarro...sigh...is there anyone on this board that thinks Hanigan was tired? I don't care if he had only caught Leake twice. Play the best players! It's the playoffs!

    Way to force game 5 Dusty by taking away our chances to keep it close and maybe have a chance to win.

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    Latos came down with a nasty case of allergy-related congestion, forcing Baker's hand toward Leake

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    I would have started Cueto, load him up on pain killers, icy hot what ever it takes so he doesn't feel that oblique tweak on each pitch. At worst he has a rough 5 inning outing and you are in the same spot as today.

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by steig View Post
    I would have started Cueto, load him up on pain killers, icy hot what ever it takes so he doesn't feel that oblique tweak on each pitch. At worst he has a rough 5 inning outing and you are in the same spot as today.
    At worse he favors it and ruins his arm.

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    At worse he favors it and ruins his arm.
    One hard start on the body won't destroy his arm. It's the postseason.

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by steig View Post
    One hard start on the body won't destroy his arm. It's the postseason.
    Cascade injuries are real, many a pitcher has destroyed his arm favoring one.

    Form is important, this isn't a movie

    Also, isn't pain killers essentially performance enhancing drugs too ?

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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Cascade injuries are real, many a pitcher has destroyed his arm favoring one.

    Form is important, this isn't a movie
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    Re: Where does starting Leake in Game 4 rank on the stupidity chart?

    Quote Originally Posted by steig View Post
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