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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Back or Contending for a spot:

    Joey Votto
    Brandon Phillips
    Zach Cozart
    Todd Frazier
    Jay Bruce
    Ryan Hanigan
    Xavier Paul
    Jonny Cueto
    Mat Latos (Contract Extension)
    Bronson Arroyo
    Homer Bailey (Contract Extension)
    Sean Marshall
    Aroldis Chapman
    Devin Mesaraco
    Wilson Valdez

    Re-sign (if the price is right):

    Ryan Ludwick
    Jonathan Broxton (or) Ryan Madson
    Dioner Navarro

    Back or Contending (if not dealt):

    Tony Cingrani
    Didi Gregorious
    Hector Rodriguez
    Chris Heisey
    Sam Lecure
    Jose Arredondo
    JJ Hoover
    Alfredo Simon

    Longshots who could make it with a strong ST:

    Billy Hamilton
    Daniel Corcino
    Ryan Lemarre
    Denis Phipps
    Pedro Villareal
    Kyle Lotzkar (not likely)
    Donald Lutz (not likely)

    To Be Dealt:

    Mike Leake
    Drew Stubbs
    Bill Bray
    Logan Ondrusek
    Nick Massett
    Neftali Soto

    Part Ways:

    Scott Rolen
    Miguel Cairo

    Drop from 40-man:

    Todd Redman
    Kris Negron

    Offseason Targets:

    * Manager (Maybe)
    * High OBP CFer who can leadoff
    * Quality Core of the Order Bat (LF or 3B) if Luddy isn't retained
    * LH bench bat with power - preferrably someone who can play 3B and LF (if Luddy is back)
    * A top-three starter who is good enough to relegate Homer and Bronson to the the 4th & 5th spots in the rotation (not being negative toward Homer either).
    * Reserve Catcher (if Navarro isn't retained)
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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    My offseason priorities are to study/make my next stripe, kiss a few pretty girls, avg 15 miles ran a week, pay off my jeep, and get a better grasp on speaking korean.


    For the Reds?
    1) OBP CF
    2) SP depth
    3) Make a decision early on what the plan is with Chapman and act accordingly.
    4) Reach an agreement with Ludwick. He had a death grip on the leadership role this year
    5) Find a utility guy that is an upgrade to Valdez/Cairo
    6) Begin working on parameters for Homer's LTC
    7) Upgrade the manager



    That's just my short list.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Ideally, I'd also like this bat to be a high-BA bat. I know BA is an overrated statistic, but the Reds need more people who put the ball in play.
    A 200-hit guy would be nice. I'm with FlightRick on this maybe being a thirdbaseman, with Frazier being your garden-variety power LF.

    The bench has been an achilles heal. Rolen is not a good bench guy. Time for him and Cairo to hang 'em up. I don't really have a big problem with Valdez. An upgrade would be nice, but a shortstop that can hit -- even a little -- usually starts games.

    This will sound funny but I'm going to invoke Rojo's Maxim: bullpens need to be re-made every year.

    Stubbs, gone, natch.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Justin Upton in the 2 hole. Frazier batting cleanup. Once Hamilton is ready for CF, move Phillips to 6th.
    Go BLUE!!!

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by cinreds21 View Post
    I don't understand why people want a long-term center fielder when Billy will be ready by September at the latest.
    Not sure Billy will be ready next season. I just want a CFer who can defend and get on base. Even when Hamilton were ready, having someone like Fowler or Spann on the roster is not a problem at all, You can always slide Billy back to SS or if you want him in CF (and Cozart Didi @ SS), Folwer or Spann will still have solid trade value. I just want someone who can get n base at a .340+ clip that they can pair with DatDude at the top of the order infront of a fully healthy Votto.

    IMO, acquiring a talented player (as long as they're OK in the clubhouse) in the offseason never causes a problem. At worst, they create another trade opportunity.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Anyone interested in the "other Upton" (not Kate) in CF?

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Anyone interested in the "other Upton" (not Kate) in CF?
    Nope. He's a rich man's Drew Stubbs. No thanks.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    I'd like to see the hockey lockout settled.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    This won't be a popular opinion, but we definitely need a 3B. IMO Todd Frazier is not a starting player.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Denard. Span. Please. When Hamilton comes up, we've got the top two lineup spots covered in front of Votto and the rest. Span solves the CF problem until Hamilton is ready, and can cover left when Hamilton takes over every day in center (which I don't expect to be next year).

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Back or Contending for a spot:


    Xavier Paul
    Wilson Valdez
    And these are on your "must have" list why?

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    And these are on your "must have" list why?
    That is not a must have list and doesn't say it is. I expect both to be back in spring training contending for spots. I see them as reasonable depth options for the Reds come spring, but don't see either holding any trade value (even as pot sweeteners).


    The guys on this list:

    Back or Contending (if not dealt):

    Tony Cingrani
    Didi Gregorious
    Hector Rodriguez
    Chris Heisey
    Sam Lecure
    Jose Arredondo
    JJ Hoover
    Alfredo Simon

    ...are guys would definitely want back, but are also guys that might be included in deals. I don't expect Paul or Valdez to hold much trade value - even as a throw-in. I certainly wouldn't hold either back if another club wanted them badly enough, but I would be quite surprised.
    Last edited by corkedbat; 10-11-2012 at 09:17 PM.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Now you've put yourself on the level that you were accusing others of being on. It's really unnecessary.
    You forgot grade school girl-ish.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    And these are on your "must have" list why?
    What's wrong with Xavier Paul? Guy looks like a valuable pinch hitter.

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    Re: Offseason Priorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Get a life guys.

    Can you really not wait the half an hour before the season is officially over.

    It must be in vogue to correctly predict the demise of our team before the fact.

    Enjoy the loss!
    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter View Post
    A little bit off topic, but do you guys think that Jesse Winker profiles more like Pete Rose or is he just the next Hal Morris??


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