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    Off-season Lookout

    Under Contract:
    Hanigan, Ryan: $2,050,000
    Masset, Nick: $3,100,000
    Cueto, Johnny: $7,400,000
    Arroyo, Bronson: $11,500,000
    Chapman, Aroldis: $2,00,000
    Phillips, Brandon: $10,000,000
    Votto, Joey: $17,000,000
    Bruce, Jay: $7,500,000
    Marshall, Sean: $4,500,000

    Pre-Aribtration;
    Frazier, Todd
    Mesoraco, Devin
    Cozart, Zack
    Paul, Xavier
    Heisey, Chris
    LeCure, Sam
    Hoover, J.J.
    Cingrani, Tony
    Ondrusek, Logan
    Redmond, Todd
    Gregorius, Didi
    Lutz, Donald
    Rodriguez, Henry
    Soto, Neftali
    Negron, Kris
    Phipps, Denis

    Arbitration-Eligible:
    Valdez, Wilson
    Bailey, Homer
    Leake, Mike
    Latos, Mat
    Simon, Alfredo
    Arredondo, Josť
    Bray, Bill
    Stubbs, Drew

    Option:
    Madson, Ryan: $11,000,000 Team Option, $2,500,000 buyout
    Ludwick, Ryan: $5,000,000 Team Option, $500,000 buyout

    Free Agent:
    Broxton, Jonathan
    Rolen, Scott
    Cairo, Miguel
    Navarro, Dioner

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Isn't Ludwick on a mutual option?

    Either way, looking good.

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    I really hope they are able to bring back Ludwick. He is a great fit for the team and has really been a great bat this year. He struggled early when his BABIP was so low but he was so clutch for so long. I wonder if he had not been hurt that last two weeks if the Reds would have ended up with the #1 seed. So many if's.

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    As long as I never see Mike Leake in a Reds uniform again, I'll be happy.
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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    As long as I never see Mike Leake in a Reds uniform again, I'll be happy.
    Add Cairo and Stubbs.

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    As long as I never see Mike Leake in a Reds uniform again, I'll be happy.
    So, if Leake is traded with Chapman, Latos and Cueto to the Cards for Carpenter and Descalso, you're the tops?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    So, if Leake is traded with Chapman, Latos and Cueto to the Cards for Carpenter and Descalso, you're the tops?
    Is this supposed to be funny?

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    So, if Leake is traded with Chapman, Latos and Cueto to the Cards for Carpenter and Descalso, you're the tops?
    Anything to make the Cards better, I'm good with.
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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    I believe Ondrusek will likely be a Super Two.

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    I wish they could re-sign Broxton, Madson, and Navarro.
    Move Chapman into the rotation if they re-sign Madson to be closer. I know the jury is still out on him coming back to his normal. I feel the starting rotation desperately needs a lefty.
    Make a trade for a cleanup hitter. If not, re-sign Ludwick.
    Make a trade for a true tablesetter. The 1 and 2 holes have been empty for too long.
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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    I think an upgrade at SS should also be on the table. Not convinced Cozart will ever be anything more than a .310 OBP guy, and that's just not good enough.

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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Quote Originally Posted by dsmith421 View Post
    I think an upgrade at SS should also be on the table. Not convinced Cozart will ever be anything more than a .310 OBP guy, and that's just not good enough.
    Sometimes it has to be good enough. Can't have above average OBP or offense from every position. Zack is lower on the list of spots that need to be upgraded.

    Lower than CF, 3B, and depending on what Ryan Ludwick does, LF.
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    Re: Off-season Lookout

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Sometimes it has to be good enough. Can't have above average OBP or offense from every position. Zack is lower on the list of spots that need to be upgraded.

    Lower than CF, 3B, and depending on what Ryan Ludwick does, LF.
    Yeah, I'm fine with Cozart at SS provided he can hit 7/8 in the lineup. A real leadoff hitter to play either LF or CF and then move Phillips to the 2 hole. I'd prefer higher OB guys for both position at the sacrifice of power. This team this year was WAY too dependent on the long ball to win. They have enough power, especially in GABP, without needing to replace Ludwick with a power guy.

    Somewhat concerned about 3B. Not sure Frazier's defense can be stomached an entire season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alloverjr View Post
    Yeah, I'm fine with Cozart at SS provided he can hit 7/8 in the lineup. A real leadoff hitter to play either LF or CF and then move Phillips to the 2 hole. I'd prefer higher OB guys for both position at the sacrifice of power. This team this year was WAY too dependent on the long ball to win. They have enough power, especially in GABP, without needing to replace Ludwick with a power guy.

    Somewhat concerned about 3B. Not sure Frazier's defense can be stomached an entire season.
    I am too in regards to Frazier, and I don't think he is a starting caliber player offensively either. I like Frazier and don't want to be right about this. But after his tear in July/early August he kind of scuffled. Didn't hit but one HR for the rest of the year either.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.


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