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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    What does a 16 game NFL season have to do with a 162 baseball season?

    What made baseball so great and the national pastime was the two best teams played for the WS each year, then they went to 4, then 8 and now 10. Letting 1/3 of the teams into the playoffs of a game that plays 162 games is retarded.

    The whole reason they play 162 games to begin with is to see who's the best teams are. The reason other sports let more teams in is because they don't play as many games to weed out the good from the bad and they get losing teams into their playoffs. When the two teams who weren't even in the 1/3 of baseball after 162 games are 2 of the final 4 teams left its bad for baseball long term, and far from the glory days of when the best teams won the Commissioners Trophy.

    Today's game rewards bad teams who have to play to the wire rather than the good teams who lock up their spot early and lose in the playoffs. That's why the best teams hardly even make the World Series let alone win it.
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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    Cards = situational hitting.
    Reds (except Votto) = trying to hit the Tundra sign regardless of the count, score, etc.
    Spot on. The playoffs is all about pitching and situational hitting. We are almost totally lacking in the latter.

    But that shouldn't suprise us as the manager and hitting coach do not insist on our players learing to do it. "Get a good pitch and whale on it" is the hitting philosophy now, and we will be unlikely to win a WS until that philosophy changes.
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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by F. Monihan View Post
    Would you be interested in a piece of cheese ?
    No I'm interested in the MLB not devaluing their playoffs even further than they did when it went to 8 team, now its even worst with 10. There is zero reason to play 162 games if you're going to let 1/3 of the teams into the playoffs.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Like I said I told you the Cards trolls would be out in full force, they pulled a rabbit out of their ass and the first thing they want to do is come to a Reds board. Seems like the Cards fans may have a slight inferiority complex.

    The fact we have 30 guests at 4AM Cincinnati time over 36 hours after the Reds finished playing shows how butthurt the Cards fans are in life even when their team wins then need to reach for justification or validation.

    OR it shows just how amusing it is to listen to you cry about hating the cards.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Brittingham.Sam View Post
    Hometown just stop talking. You need to realize that you're just adding fuel to the fire bro. Cards fans are coming on here and love reading what you are posting because its making you look incredibly bitter. Cards fans love it because you talk so much sh*! about the cardinals on here and now they get to rub it in your face. Understand they're just laughing at you while keep responding. You're getting trolled hardcore man.

    Shhhh, don't ruin the fun

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    No I'm interested in the MLB not devaluing their playoffs even further than they did when it went to 8 team, now its even worst with 10. There is zero reason to play 162 games if you're going to let 1/3 of the teams into the playoffs.
    As cards fan, I would admit that the Cards record shouldn't have been good enough to get into the playoffs. But I think anyone who's objective can acknowledge why the second wild card is good for baseball. It makes teams care about winning the division, and in the AL, I don't think there was one team who you could argue didn't deserve to make the playoffs.

    Meanwhile, if Bud Selig wants the Cardinals in the playoffs, then we aren't going to refuse that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadi for Mayor View Post
    OR it shows just how amusing it is to listen to you cry about hating the cards.
    Its a Reds board you goof, if you want people to love the Cards go to your own board jackass.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yadi for Mayor View Post
    As cards fan, I would admit that the Cards record shouldn't have been good enough to get into the playoffs. But I think anyone who's objective can acknowledge why the second wild card is good for baseball. It makes teams care about winning the division, and in the AL, I don't think there was one team who you could argue didn't deserve to make the playoffs.

    Meanwhile, if Bud Selig wants the Cardinals in the playoffs, then we aren't going to refuse that.

    Its only good for making baseball more money! If you wanted to make it more about winning the division you wouldn't even have WC's but clearly you are not smart enough to realize that.

    With every added WC you add its another team they doesn't need to care about winning its division thus making them worthless, its the same reason nobody can remember who won division titles in the NFL, NHL and NBA from one year to the next.

    The WC teams faced zero punished this year, the only team punished was the Braves. The AL WC game was going to be played regardless since it would have been a game 163. None of the teams that won the WC games used their #1 so those teams face zero punished from the rotation stand point.

    Literally the only thing to come out of the Wild Card was to have the 11th best team beat out a 4th best Braves team in a one game set up, that Braves team had 3 more wins than best Cards team had made since 05 with included 2 world champions, and 4 playoff teams. The Braves 94 wins is the best for a NL Wild Card team since the Giants 95 a decade ago, that team lost in the 7th game of the WS.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    I never want the Reds to get the 2nd WC I have said how dumb the idea was before the Cards even won it. Each year MLB is devaluing its regular season and all that matters is the last two week getting hot and winning some short series that play noting like the 162 grind that decides who make its.
    You will be singing a different tune next season, when the Cardinals are 1st in the division and the Reds are fighting for one of the wild card spots.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by birdsonthebat View Post
    You will be singing a different tune next season, when the Cardinals are 1st in the division and the Reds are fighting for one of the wild card spots.
    I never want the Reds to get in as the 11th best team with 41% of the season wins coming vs teams with 90 or more losses.

    Its also doubtful the Cards will win the division next year since they aren't going to have Houston to beat up on, you aren't going to pay Kyle Lohse who you have 9 of the 14 games over .500 in his starts, Jaime Garcia is going to need a shoulder surgery, Carpenter is going to be a year older and trying to hand on for 32 starts at 38 and Wainwright will hit the wall after throwing well over 200 innings after missing a full season. Strasburg worked 24 then jumped to 159.1 while Wainwright went from zero to 206.2 and counting.

    Yadier Molina and Allen Craig aren't going to match their career years. Rafael Furcal will be back banged up and older and if he can't go Kozma isn't eventually going to go bad hitting like a .236 minor league hitter, Jon Jay is never going to have a .384 average with a .453 OBP at home again, and Beltran will be 36 the year that position players die in the post steroid era, and good money is on the Berkman track going from 30+ to injured.

    The Cards are about to put all their hopes into rookies because key guys are about to get big money or will be gone.

    In 2014 Wainwright and Carpenter become a FA, with Molina/Holliday/Garcia who may never be the same after shoulder surgery making 40M. Motte is about to go to arbitration for the 2nd time so he's going to get paid now this winter and it will be even more in 2014. Also in 2014 Fresse and Boggs will be in 2nd year of Arbitration and Jay and Craig will be in 1st year.

    The window is closing and the owner is about to jump out of the game and cash out with maximum profits. The new owner may not be wanting to put in 25 more million bucks like they outspent the Reds this year.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Its a Reds board you goof, if you want people to love the Cards go to your own board jackass.

    No please don't stop, you're cracking me up with your bitterness.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yadi for Mayor View Post
    No please don't stop, you're cracking me up with your bitterness.
    I didn't like it before Cards made it into a playoff spot and before we even lost.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    I didn't like it before Cards made it into a playoff spot and before we even lost.
    You probably didn't like Jocketty, Rolen, Ludwick or Edmonds either, right?

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by birdsonthebat View Post
    You probably didn't like Jocketty, Rolen, Ludwick or Edmonds either, right?
    I love Jocko and Ludwick, Rolen is alright but has been broken down forever and never been a Jimmy fan since since he loved the fake dives on balls he could have just ran and caught.

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    Re: Man I wish the Reds had Clutch hitting like the Cardinals I hate so much!!!

    It's no secret the Umps call them loose in elimination games when a team with a large draw has a chance at advancing. MLB may be about competition but they like to make money too. The cards in the NLCS or WS will draw a larger audience than the Nats, so if the Umps or the league can give them a small nudge in the right direction and help them get in they're going to do it.
    I've said all winter they talk about this team winning the division and my comment is, they won't win it because, at the end of the day, they still are the Chicago Cubs, and they will figure out a way to screw this whole thing up. - Marty Brennaman


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