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Thread: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...os-marmol.html

    8:42pm: The deal will take place if Marmol agrees to join the Angels, a source told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter).




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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    Marmol never had the game's best control, and he seems to have less every year. I think that at this point, he's a liability in the pen. 7.3 walks per nine innings last year. 6 for his career, even, and he just turned 30. Arredondo was at 5, and I don't really want him back.
    Yeah but Arredondo never K'd almost 12 per 9 at any point either though.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Ken Rosenthal
    Source: Marmol would have OK'ed trade to #Angels, but #Cubs pulled deal off table and trade is not happening. Angels talking to other clubs.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    What could the Reds offer for Haren?

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    What could the Reds offer for Haren?
    Mike Leake.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Mike Leake.
    Why?

    If the Angels were willing to take Marmol, they'd gladly settle for Ondrusek or Arredondo. Maybe even Bray.

    Reds can't afford Haren anyway.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Cubs Almost trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Title change needed
    Can't win with 'em

    Can't win without 'em

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Why?

    If the Angels were willing to take Marmol, they'd gladly settle for Ondrusek or Arredondo. Maybe even Bray.

    Reds can't afford Haren anyway.
    Not a chance. Marmol has history none of those pitchers do.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    9:27pm: Marmol would have approved a trade to the Angels, but the Cubs pulled the deal off of the table, a source tells Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (via Twitter). The Angels are still talking with other clubs about Haren as they close in on the 11pm CST deadline to exercise his $15.5MM option.

    9:20pm: The trade will not take place, a Cubs source tells Carrie Muskat of MLB.com (via Twitter).

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    Re: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    And now he is a FA


    The Angels have declined their option on Dan Haren's contract for 2013, according to Alden Gonzalez of MLB.com (via Twitter). The hurler will now enter the open market with a $3.5MM buyout rather than a $15.5MM salary with the Angels next season. Earlier this evening it seemed as though the... #mlb

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    Re: Cubs trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Not a chance. Marmol has history none of those pitchers do.
    That is correct. He has a history of walking over 6 batters every 9 innings.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Can't believe there isn't a team willing to roll the dice on a 1 year 12M deal on Haren. He wasn't THAT bad this year. He's not an ace, but he's not much different than James Shields in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    That is correct. He has a history of walking over 6 batters every 9 innings.
    And striking out 12 per 9. And posting a sub 3 ERA over a full season three times, one of those being sub 1.50. And being a valuable closer.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Schuler View Post
    He has also taught me that even when the Reds win it is important to focus on the fact that they could have lost.

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    Re: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Bateman View Post
    Can't believe there isn't a team willing to roll the dice on a 1 year 12M deal on Haren. He wasn't THAT bad this year. He's not an ace, but he's not much different than James Shields in my mind.
    Agreed.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Cubs DO NOT trade Marmol for Dan Haren

    The only thing I can think of is something in his medical records, why else wouldn't they have been able to trade him? Why else would the Cubs have backed out?
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