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    Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    The Reds have two talented shortstops on their 40-man roster: Zack Cozart, 27, and Didi Gregorius, 22. Both are far away from free agency, meaning one could be dealt to fill a more immediate need.
    In fact, Jocketty told FOXSports.com Thursday that its possible he will trade one of them this winter.
    It depends if we get back what we need, Jocketty said. If we dont, then I wont mind holding onto them.
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    They go on to suggest the A's as a fit with Coco Crisp coming to the Reds.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Ugh. Coco Crisp. No thanks.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    I'd be stunned if they dealt Cozart or Didi (in a package) for anything other than a middle of the order bat or a rock solid starter. CF is coming from within soon enough, and closer will either be a free agent or Chapman.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Leake and Gregorius as a significant portion of a package for Justin Upton?
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Leake and Gregorius as a significant portion of a package for Justin Upton?
    Yes please.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Leake and Gregorius as a significant portion of a package for Justin Upton?
    Are you kidding me? Leake, Gregorius, Cingrani, and someone else e.g. Drew Hayes or Josh Smith for Upton? Yes, please. Heck, maybe even Chad Rogers or Drew Cisco, too.

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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    Leake and Gregorius as a significant portion of a package for Justin Upton?
    Co-sign. I'd even consider dealing Cozart instead of Didi. The Reds have been looking for a right-handed middle of the order bat for several seasons.

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    They must be pretty high on Gregorious if they are talking about dealing Cozart.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by camisadelgolf View Post
    Are you kidding me? Leake, Gregorius, Cingrani, and someone else e.g. Drew Hayes or Josh Smith for Upton? Yes, please. Heck, maybe even Chad Rogers or Drew Cisco, too.
    Leake, Cozart (I think he has the better trade value), Cingrani, and Yorman Rodriguez is a pretty good haul, IMO, and one Arizona may bite on.

    The 2011 Upton would go a long way to making the Reds offense outstanding.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by Chip R View Post
    They must be pretty high on Gregorious if they are talking about dealing Cozart.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Would be nice to get them to throw in Bauer as well since they seem to be way down on him. I'm sure we would have to give up some good players to get both Upton and Bauer but it could be worth it to have a young middle of the order bat and young potential top starter.

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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Cozart is solid defensively, but not spectacular. You are not going to see a lot of SportsCenter highlights of Zack playing SS. Didi is probably the better defensive player.

    Offensively, Cozart does have some pop, but I'm not sold that his bat will be anything more than what we have seen. I have not seen enough of Didi to know what he will bring to the table, although I am convinced his bat has a LONG way to go.

    Every time I start lamenting over the lack of offense at SS, I am reminded of the early 70's when a light-hitting, good-fielding young fellow named Davey Concepcion was handed the SS job. His bat eventually became respectable.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    It's still November and already our Hot Stove has turned into a Dutch Oven.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeS21 View Post
    Cozart is solid defensively, but not spectacular. You are not going to see a lot of SportsCenter highlights of Zack playing SS. Didi is probably the better defensive player.

    Offensively, Cozart does have some pop, but I'm not sold that his bat will be anything more than what we have seen. I have not seen enough of Didi to know what he will bring to the table, although I am convinced his bat has a LONG way to go.

    Every time I start lamenting over the lack of offense at SS, I am reminded of the early 70's when a light-hitting, good-fielding young fellow named Davey Concepcion was handed the SS job. His bat eventually became respectable.
    Cozart had several stellar plays last year and also showed good range. I don't trust Gregorius' bat. Looks like a defensive specialist to me. I'd deal him if I had my druthers.
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    Re: Jocketty: Reds could trade a shortstop

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    Cozart had several stellar plays last year and also showed good range. I don't trust Gregorius' bat. Looks like a defensive specialist to me. I'd deal him if I had my druthers.
    I think the age difference is something to also take into account. At 27, Cozart isn't bound to get much better with the bat, but Gregorius, being 22, could still have some room to improve offensively.
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