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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    I don't think anyone would argue that removing Loria from owning an MLB team would be in the best interest of the game.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    This is reminiscent of the recent BoSox dumping of big names and contracts to the Dodgers.

    If I were a Marlins fan (if there are any, I've never met one), I'd be pretty hacked off.
    Marlins fans are used to firesales, but usually the ownership has the common decency to win a World Series before engaging in one.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    No way the Marlins ever sign another big name free agent now that they've traded off Bell, Buerhle, and Reyes a season after signing them all to long term contracts.

    No way the fans ever fill that stadium to watch this team ever again. This is Expos pt. 2, from the same director.

    Marlins team salary now is around $16 million
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    1) The people of Montreal made a good call when they refused to hand money to Jeff Loria.

    2) Jose Reyes is just about as good as it gets at the SS position. He makes money because he's worth it.

    3) Ben Cherington may have some 'splainin' to do for why the Jays made this trade and the Red Sox didn't.

    4) Nicolino is the only particularly compelling talent headed to Miami. Alvarez kind of sucks. Escobar collapsed last season. Hechvarria looks like he's joining a long line of mirage players who only can hit while playing in Las Vegas. Marisnick is starting to look like a bit of a jeans model.

    5) I'm with benihana, the Reds should make a move on Giancarlo immediately.
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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    The Marlins have no reason to trade Stanton as he's young, inexpensive and they can perhaps sell the BS angle that they're going to "build around him."

    The Reds would have to throw a ton of prospects the Marlins' way for them to even think about parting ways with Stanton. He is the only thing the Marlins have left, he's extremely good and he comes extremely cheap. He hasn't come close to hitting his peak yet. It would take a package of Billy Hamilton, Tony Cingrani and then either Daniel Corcino or Robert Stephenson to get it done (as someone mentioned earlier in this thread). There might be some on here willing to do that deal, but I can't see Walt completely pillaging his farm system like that. Those are the Reds' top-four prospects right there. Giving up three of them would be really tough, but that's what it would take to get Stanton IMO. And who knows if the Marlins would even think that's enough. Just because we think it would be enough and perhaps too much doesn't mean they would agree. Remember how the Mariners preferred Justin Smoak over Yonder Alonso? While Alonso isn't all that good, he's definitely better than Smoak. Didn't matter. The M's thought Smoak was better.

    So, I'll believe it when I see it, but yes, I hope the Reds at least kick the tires on a possible deal for Stanton. Just don't see the Marlins wanting anything to do with trading him though.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
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    That was my favorite thread last off-season.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Could we just merge these two threads.

    http://www.redszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98757
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    The Marlins have no reason to trade Stanton as he's young, inexpensive and they can perhaps sell the BS angle that they're going to "build around him."

    The Reds would have to throw a ton of prospects the Marlins' way for them to even think about parting ways with Stanton. He is the only thing the Marlins have left, he's extremely good and he comes extremely cheap. He hasn't come close to hitting his peak yet. It would take a package of Billy Hamilton, Tony Cingrani and then either Daniel Corcino or Robert Stephenson to get it done (as someone mentioned earlier in this thread). There might be some on here willing to do that deal, but I can't see Walt completely pillaging his farm system like that. Those are the Reds' top-four prospects right there. Giving up three of them would be really tough, but that's what it would take to get Stanton IMO. And who knows if the Marlins would even think that's enough. Just because we think it would be enough and perhaps too much doesn't mean they would agree. Remember how the Mariners preferred Justin Smoak over Yonder Alonso? While Alonso isn't all that good, he's definitely better than Smoak. Didn't matter. The M's thought Smoak was better.

    So, I'll believe it when I see it, but yes, I hope the Reds at least kick the tires on a possible deal for Stanton. Just don't see the Marlins wanting anything to do with trading him though.
    And would you have seen this coming?

    The Marlins are not an MLB team. Stanton may very well force their hand, anyway.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Stanton will only be inexpensive for another 2 seasons before he hits arbitration, at which point he will no longer be a Marlin just like Miguel Cabrera found out. Can't hurt to ask Miami now.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Quote Originally Posted by mattfeet View Post
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    Go get him, it's clearance time in Miami.
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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    When you have an ownership that has a strict policy against no-trade clauses, this is what you get.

    This is the Marlins. Fire sales is what they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Go get him, it's clearance time in Miami.
    Votto/Stanton/Bruce

    Would absolutely mortgage the future for four years of that. Anyone's on the table. Back from dreamland, who's idea was this Miami debacle anyway? That's gonna be a joke next year.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    I would still do Chapman for Stanton, and I think the Marlins would too.

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    Re: Blue Jays Acquiring J.Reyes, J.Johnson and M.Buerhle

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    1) The people of Montreal made a good call when they refused to hand money to Jeff Loria.

    2) Jose Reyes is just about as good as it gets at the SS position. He makes money because he's worth it.

    3) Ben Cherington may have some 'splainin' to do for why the Jays made this trade and the Red Sox didn't.

    4) Nicolino is the only particularly compelling talent headed to Miami. Alvarez kind of sucks. Escobar collapsed last season. Hechvarria looks like he's joining a long line of mirage players who only can hit while playing in Las Vegas. Marisnick is starting to look like a bit of a jeans model.

    5) I'm with benihana, the Reds should make a move on Giancarlo immediately.
    WEEI on now, they're giving Cherington credit for having the discipline not to do it.
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