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    Marlins 2014 contractual obligations as of right now: $0
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    Quote Originally Posted by savafan View Post
    Marlins 2014 contractual obligations as of right now: $0
    Hey that is about equal to the revenue their season ticket sales should bring in.

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    Time to reinvent the team yet again

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    Giancarlo Stanton was home in Westwood, Calif., on Tuesday when he heard the news that five of his teammates were being traded to the Toronto Blue Jays. His first thought hadn't changed by Thursday night.

    "I do not like this at all," Stanton said. "This is the 'winning philosophy?' Then to say it's not about money? What is the motivation? There comes a breaking point. I know how I feel. I can't imagine how the city and the fans feel. They talked about that, a winning philosophy, and how they were building a winner to play in the new ballpark," Stanton said. "They talked about me and Jose. They talked about how they'd have Jose and [Emilio Bonifacio] and Hanley [Ramirez] in front of me and how they would go get a bat to protect me.

    "Jose, Bonifacio, Hanley ... all three are gone now. I had people warn me that something like this could happen, but it runs against the competitive nature every athlete has, that nature that everything is about winning. This kind of thing is what gets talked about all the time around this team. Former Marlins come back and they warn us. It gets talked about during the stretch, in the clubhouse, after games, on the road. Again, I do not like this at all."
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    The Marlins do not award no-trade clauses, but club officials, while recruiting Reyes and Buerhle as free agents last offseason, assured both players that they would not be moved, sources said.

    Buehrle knew the Marlins’ history of dumping high-priced players, and it concerned him, according to a friend. Team president David Samson, however, told both Buehrle and his wife, Jamie, that the team was committed to a long-term vision, sources said.

    A source close to Reyes, asked if the shortstop also received verbal assurances from the Marlins that he would not be traded, responded, “The answer is yes. A vehement yes.”
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    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    In his latest column, Buster Olney says "It would be a shock if the Marlins dont trade Stanton in the next 20 months."

    Definitely the strongest terms we've heard since this whole thing started. So the question is, what is the BEST package you offer for Stanton?

    I'll start: One each of
    Chapman/Stephenson/Frazier
    Cingrani/Corcino/Travieso (Once he can be moved)
    Any hitting prospect in the minors other than Hamilton

    (my guess is the Fish need pitching and not up-the-middle players after the blockbuster trade)

    If the Fish choose Frazier, sign Youkilis to play 3B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    In his latest column, Buster Olney says "It would be a shock if the Marlins dont trade Stanton in the next 20 months."

    Definitely the strongest terms we've heard since this whole thing started. So the question is, what is the BEST package you offer for Stanton?

    I'll start: One each of
    Chapman/Stephenson/Frazier
    Cingrani/Corcino/Travieso (Once he can be moved)
    Any hitting prospect in the minors other than Hamilton

    (my guess is the Fish need pitching and not up-the-middle players after the blockbuster trade)

    If the Fish choose Frazier, sign Youkilis to play 3B
    No no no to trading Chapman. Don't really want to trade Frazier either. Trading a major league player is a lateral move at this point. We need to add, not exchange.

    I'm not down for trading Hamilton because he's basically a MLB player at this point. I would also prefer to not trade Stephenson, because he looks like he could be ridiculously good.

    Aside from that, if we have the pieces, give them whatever they want. Corcino/Cingrani/Travieso/Leake, it's a lot of pitchers but that is the game's currency. Maybe that could do it. Maybe add a SS too? Maybe Didi since he would make less for longer?
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    For Stanton?

    I'd do Hamilton, Cingrani/ Corcino, and Frazier.

    And that's a bunch to pay, but, if you're going to spend a bunch on someone, it'd be Stanton.
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    No no no to trading Chapman. Don't really want to trade Frazier either. Trading a major league player is a lateral move at this point. We need to add, not exchange.

    I'm not down for trading Hamilton because he's basically a MLB player at this point. I would also prefer to not trade Stephenson, because he looks like he could be ridiculously good.

    Aside from that, if we have the pieces, give them whatever they want. Corcino/Cingrani/Travieso/Leake, it's a lot of pitchers but that is the game's currency. Maybe that could do it. Maybe add a SS too? Maybe Didi since he would make less for longer?
    No Chapman, no Frazier, no Hamilton, no Stephenson = No Stanton.

    Plain and simple.

    Why would a team trade their biggest asset if we're not willing to trade a top 10 asset?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    No Chapman, no Frazier, no Hamilton, no Stephenson = No Stanton.

    Plain and simple.

    Why would a team trade their biggest asset if we're not willing to trade a top 10 asset?
    So we should trade 4 of our top assets in exchange for 1? No way. That's a good way to tear apart a team that just won 97 games. It doesn't need a drastic makeover.

    Moreover, Cingrani and Corcino are two of our top 5 prospects. Leake is a first round pedigree with upside and control years, and Travieso is a first rounder too. Didi is a potential starting SS to round it out.

    We should do it but only if it makes sense. The prospects make sense. A contending team trading away multiple major contributors does not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    So we should trade 4 of our top assets in exchange for 1? No way. That's a good way to tear apart a team that just won 97 games. It doesn't need a drastic makeover.

    Moreover, Cingrani and Corcino are two of our top 5 prospects. Leake is a first round pedigree with upside and control years, and Travieso is a first rounder too. Didi is a potential starting SS to round it out.

    We should do it but only if it makes sense. The prospects make sense. A contending team trading away multiple major contributors does not.
    Who said trade 4 of our top assets?

    I said I'd trade ONE of Chapman/Stephenson/Frazier + 2 other pieces (Corcino + a minor league hitter other than Hamilton).

    The Marlins just acquired three middle infielders from Toronto. I don't think they're looking for another SS, unless his name is Jurickson Profar (which the Rangers ESPN writer said the Rangers should be willing to do- just to put things into perspective as far as Stanton's value).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Who said trade 4 of our top assets?

    I said I'd trade ONE of Chapman/Stephenson/Frazier + 2 other pieces (Corcino + a minor league hitter other than Hamilton).

    The Marlins just acquired three middle infielders from Toronto. I don't think they're looking for another SS, unless his name is Jurickson Profar (which the Rangers ESPN writer said the Rangers should be willing to do- just to put things into perspective as far as Stanton's value).
    I missed the one each part of that post, my bad. Still, trading Chapman is the worst idea along with trading Bailey that has hooked on with some degree of curious popularity with a fair amount of RZers. Chapman was arguably our MVP. Do not trade him.

    Anyway, maybe they don't want Didi. OK, that's fine. But a package of 3 legitimate top prospect SP, 1 of whom is a first round pick, and a fellow former first round pick MLB SP with upside and years left is not a slouch of an offer.
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    I would trade Chapman for Stanton in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    I would trade Chapman for Stanton in a heartbeat.
    I would throw in Hamilton as well plus some pitching lottery prospect types.

    23 year old that already has 1500 PA under his belt and last year put up a line of .290/.361/.608 with 37 HR. Add in 4 years left of control and he is exactly the type of player you trade your best trade chips for.
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    Hamilton, Leake, & Cingrani should get the conversation going. I'd do that plus a couple lottery-ticket guys and not look back. You don't pass up the opportunity to get a talent like Stanton when all it costs you are prospects and 4/5 starters. I like Hamilton, but one leg injury and his value tanks. Cash him in. Now.
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    Hamilton, Stephenson, Leake, and Corcino if necessary
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