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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Yes, but it has to be on the Reds' terms.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    If he accepts a hometown discount it's a no brainer. If he won't right now I don't think the Reds would be inclined to offer 15 + million a year.

    It's fantastic to hear him saying he wants to be a Red his whole career. I now have a man crush on Jay.

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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Unfortunately, I could see a 2017-2022 Bruce extension having more in common with the Vernon Wells or Alex Rios contracts than I do with the 2011-2017 Bruce contract. No need to take the plunge right now.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    I think I'd wait a couple of years. He just signed a very generous deal not two years ago that won't expire for a few more years. It sets a bit of a bad precedent.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Too soon, unless he's willing to do so on very generous terms.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    I believe in 5 years the Votto contract may be considered the worst contract in baseball (vying with Pujols). So, no, I don't want to give him a contract like Votto.

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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    I believe in 5 years the Votto contract may be considered the worst contract in baseball (vying with Pujols). So, no, I don't want to give him a contract like Votto.
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    I love me some Jay Bruce .... but hell no I wouldn't extend him right now. In another two or three years, sure, I would be open to talking extension. But with five years left? Not interested. Too many things can happen between now and 2017 that would radically change his market value.

    Signing players a decade out into the future almost always bites the team in the ass before the contract is up.

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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    The big difference to extending Bruce now for 5 more years is it only takes him to about age 35. If you wait another year or two to do so, and he has that monster season, an extension might start costing $20M per season by then.

    If he'll sign another 5 at say $15M as suggested, it might be hard to pass that up.

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    I'd love love love to see Jay and Joe spend their whole careers here in Cincy
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    I believe in 5 years the Votto contract may be considered the worst contract in baseball (vying with Pujols). So, no, I don't want to give him a contract like Votto.
    Or this time next year. Remember that Votto hasn't homered since June. What if he doesn't hit one out before June 2013?

    I'm concerned that Bruce's hot streaks at the plate will become fewer and farther between after age 30, the range he's asking the Reds to extend his deal into. Not sure that Reds fans will want the hitter that lurks below the mean, between the torrid stretches, if that guy becomes Jay's new normal in his thirties.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    The big difference to extending Bruce now for 5 more years is it only takes him to about age 35. If you wait another year or two to do so, and he has that monster season, an extension might start costing $20M per season by then.

    If he'll sign another 5 at say $15M as suggested, it might be hard to pass that up.
    Not for me it wouldn't. Way too much risk for a potential "reward" of $5MM per year, discounted back (present value) 6-10 years.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    I believe in 5 years the Votto contract may be considered the worst contract in baseball (vying with Pujols). So, no, I don't want to give him a contract like Votto.
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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Exactly what Steve said.

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    Re: should Bruce be given a long term contract like Votto

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    Not for me it wouldn't. Way too much risk for a potential "reward" of $5MM per year, discounted back (present value) 6-10 years.
    As said, it might be $20M during his age 36+ seasons by doing the extension closer to his free agency. Just something to consider.


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