http://bbwaa.com/12-nl-mvp/
Reds finish 10th (Bruce), 12th (Chapman), 13th (Phillips) and 14th (Votto).
http://bbwaa.com/12-nl-mvp/
Reds finish 10th (Bruce), 12th (Chapman), 13th (Phillips) and 14th (Votto).
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Wow. Honestly that's a pretty impressive showing by the Reds.
Votto, despite being out with injuries so much, actually led all MLB hitters in WPA. He just doesn't make that many outs.
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Read about it here, it's very interesting.
Key point:
For example, say the Rays have a 45% chance of winning before Ben Zobrist comes to the plate. During his at-bat, Zobrist hits a home run, pushing the Rays’ win expectancy jumps to 75%. That difference in win expectancy (in decimal form, +.30) from the beginning of the play to the end is Ben Zobrist’s WPA for that play. If Zobrist strikes out during his next at bat and lowers his team’s win expectancy by 5%, his overall WPA for the game so far would be +.30 – .05 = +.25, as WPA is a counting statistic and is additive.
I actually was reading about it Nate. Thanks though. I only posted because it might be a good idea to not just throw in acronyms that aren't that commonly known outside the sabre-circle. Just a suggestion.
And upon a cursory glance thus far, it's quite impressive that Joey led the league in this stat especially since it's a counting stat basically.
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From a simple raw counting standpoint, Joey Votto reached base 243 times last year, 23rd in MLB. He did that in 475 plate appearances. Of the people above him on the list, the next lowest PA total was Buster Posey, with 610 -- 135 more plate appearances than Votto. More than half of the people who reached base more times had at least 200 more plate appearances than Votto did. It's hard to overstate how impressive his OBP was.
If Votto kept up his production over the ~200 PA that he missed because of the injury, he would have have led the NL in WAR (8.4 fWAR compared to Posey's 8.0, 8.0 brWAR to Posey's 7.2). When he played, Votto was the best player in the NL in 2012. He just didn't play enough.
Last edited by RedsManRick; 11-16-2012 at 11:57 AM.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
2 first place votes for Yadier. What were those votes based on: the lower BA? the fewer HR's and RBI? the lack of a ring?
i wish i could like Buster Posey but all the to do from Sabean and the Giants(and Posey I suppose as well) over him getting run over at the plate(like real catchers do from time to time)has turned me against him.....did I say "to do"? I meant whining
If|Votto had played 150 games at thew same level of production as he did in his other games, he would have been a shoe in for the MVP.
Once McCutheon fell off the table and the Brewers failed to contend, there went Votto's only competition.
Posey was a deserving winner, but he was 4th until the other events happened.
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