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Thread: The Value of Good Coaching

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    Member MikeThierry's Avatar
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    Re: The Value of Good Coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    What I enjoy about sabermetrics is precisely that it doesn't rely on faith. It demands you show your work. If the scientific method is now considered an article of faith, then I don't know what to say. And if sabermetric types either aren't showing their work or are doing bad work, they should be called out accordingly.
    I think my biggest argument against sabermetrics is that it takes out the human element. In many way's that's a good thing. However, it doesn't take into account human nature. I don't think there are such thing as clutch players, however I do believe there are players that have the ability to not let the pressure get to them. Joey Votto and Albert Pujols in his prime were examples of this. Sabermetrics seem to view players as one and the same from a human nature standpoint. I'm glad we have gone away from the whole "eye test" but one cannot completely ignore human nature.
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    Re: The Value of Good Coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    What I enjoy about sabermetrics is precisely that it doesn't rely on faith.
    Not literal faith, maybe a better word would be orthodoxy.

    Some saber guys know the words but don't hear the music, or even acknowledge that there is music.

    BTW, this doesn't apply to Bill James.
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    Be the ball Roy Tucker's Avatar
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    Re: The Value of Good Coaching

    Some believe extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.

    Or something like that.

    Teach tolerance.

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    Re: The Value of Good Coaching

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    The snark about Baker is a consistent meme among national writers who are also sabre guys.
    Who consistently snarks about Baker nationally?
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