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    Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/1...ring-deal.html

    I wish the Reds could have done something like that. It will be interesting to see how much.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    I'd really prefer Broxton. Hopefully we can get him signed.

    Let the Angels rehab Madson, we need more of a sure thing.
    I never thought Madson's price would fall to the level where it would be attractive for the Reds to bring him back next year (for me, that level would probably be a max of 2-3 million)
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    It's official. Madson's an Angel.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    There's no logical reason for feeling this way, but I always get bothered when we pay a guy and get nothing out of him. Its business, he owes us nothing as an organization or to the fans, but somehow it always 'hurts my feelings' somehow.

    Illogical, but I think the love of sport is illogical by nature so whats one more affront to sanity?

    Good luck Ryan, we hardly knew ya.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    There's no logical reason for feeling this way, but I always get bothered when we pay a guy and get nothing out of him. Its business, he owes us nothing as an organization or to the fans, but somehow it always 'hurts my feelings' somehow.
    Same here.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    There's no logical reason for feeling this way, but I always get bothered when we pay a guy and get nothing out of him. Its business, he owes us nothing as an organization or to the fans, but somehow it always 'hurts my feelings' somehow.

    Illogical, but I think the love of sport is illogical by nature so whats one more affront to sanity?

    Good luck Ryan, we hardly knew ya.
    Agreed. The risk runs both ways and everybody knows what the risks are. Still feels like we got gypped.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    I felt the same way. Thats why I wanted the Reds to tender the offer to get a first round comp pick for him leaving.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal



    Seeing Madson lives not far from Anaheim and used the Angels medical staff during his rehab, I am not shocked he is signing with them.
    Last edited by klw; 11-27-2012 at 07:10 PM.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    I'd really prefer Broxton. Hopefully we can get him signed.
    They will.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    So the Reds paid Madson to be injured for a season. Oh well, that's the risks you take.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    So the Reds paid Madson to be injured for a season. Oh well, that's the risks you take.
    Sometimes good moves don't work out. Good luck to him.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gallen5862 View Post
    I felt the same way. Thats why I wanted the Reds to tender the offer to get a first round comp pick for him leaving.
    We would have never gotten the pick, though we would have had to pay him $13.3 M to rehab him for half a season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph View Post
    There's no logical reason for feeling this way, but I always get bothered when we pay a guy and get nothing out of him. Its business, he owes us nothing as an organization or to the fans, but somehow it always 'hurts my feelings' somehow.

    Illogical, but I think the love of sport is illogical by nature so whats one more affront to sanity?

    Good luck Ryan, we hardly knew ya.
    Same, but mostly because its always cool to have the best players choose to come to the Reds. Madson was a huge longshot to sign with us, so after Reds fans got the surprising gift of this top billed closer deciding to play for us, it was disappointing that he was never able to take the field in the Reds uniform.
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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    Ludwick bothers me even more for some reason even though his situation is "just business" as well. I would've declined the option like he did but still the way the guy struggled early last season and the way Jocketty, Baker, and the Reds stuck with him and helped his resurrect his career it just seems like there would be a little pay back.

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    Re: Angels and Ryan Madson nearing an incentive-laden deal

    What bothers me even more than Ludwick not showing more gratitude is the team owners making hundreds of millions off people abusing their bodies on a daily basis just to make fractions of that.


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