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    Re: Reds named 'Organization of the Year' by Baseball America

    I'm sorry, but I don't think WJ should be penalized or "marked down" because he "inherited" what he has. All GMs do this. It doesn't take much to screw up a good program, but he also brought his competence and track record to Cincinnati. It isn't like he was the new Kris Kringle taking over the Santa Claus empire. Don't forget we live in the town where a certain decision maker inherited a franchise that was in decent shape and what happened to that franchise when he took the reins.

    I guess the overabundance of information has raised expectations to sexy moves to say a GM is active and should "get credit." Begging the question.

    Well, the Marlins have been very active. The Astros have been releasing, trading, signing left and right. Lots of activity there, they must be well run organizations.

    I guess lots of activity gives more fodder for internet pundits to have information to deadpan.
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    Re: Reds named 'Organization of the Year' by Baseball America

    Congrats to the Reds on being named Organization of the Year by Baseball America!!! That's pretty awesome.
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    Re: Reds named 'Organization of the Year' by Baseball America

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Jocketty was the first GM to have the patience to sit tight, keep all the team's prospects, and rebuild the foundation for long term success.

    I have no doubt that if Jocketty wasn't the GM in 2008-9, some combination of Votto, Cueto, Bruce and Bailey, would have been traded for mediocre middle relief and starting pitching. Seriously, no trades or moves could have been made in those years to make the team a contender, and Jocketty was smart enough to understand that.
    Excellent way to say it.
    Before Walt Jocketty, we had a series of GMs that were basically "churners".
    Well, other than DanO, who did absolutely nothing.

    Bowden figured a lot of HR and good relief pitching would lead to a lot of exciting, come from behind victories that would sell tickets (and he was successful at constructing some teams like that, and to his credit, sold tickets)

    Wayne figured that if you audition enough pitchers, eventually you'd get a group that would work. Defense wasn't that important. Dunn and a few other hitters was a "Good enough" offense.

    Both Bowden and Wayne made tons of dumpster dive moves and churned through a lot of bodies, but other than Bowdens' early years (mid 90's) no progress made. Isn't it wonderful to come into spring training not having to hope the Jimmy Anderson, Jason Bere, and Steve Avery will suddenly find the success that has eluded them for years? (Acutally Anderson never really had success). Isn't it great that Dave Williams is not being pimped as a possible #2 starter? Isn't it great that our big offseason move is not signing Stanton to a 3 year deal? Isn't it nice to hold on to our best hitters instead of trading them for a AAA lottery ticket?

    A lot of credit goes to Cast for bringing in the right people to run this franchise.
    He got a lot of flack for his "The losing stops now" comment, but he's really put his month where his mouth is.
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    Re: Reds named 'Organization of the Year' by Baseball America

    Re: Scott Rolen ...he's undecided on whether he'll retire or play for one more year, per Fay:

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...len-undecided/

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    Re: Reds named 'Organization of the Year' by Baseball America

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    Re: Scott Rolen ...he's undecided on whether he'll retire or play for one more year, per Fay:

    http://cincinnati.com/blogs/reds/201...len-undecided/
    C'mon Scott put your cards on the table and let's move on.


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