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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    It's not info if it doesn't inform, otherwise it's noise
    Sometimes where there's noise, there's information to be gathered. See MLBTradeRumors.com for an example of noise gathering. I suppose it's not for everyone, but it's valuable when used correctly. That is, with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    It's not info if it doesn't inform, otherwise it's noise
    It's less noise than the posts criticizing him for posting it.

    Doug says Mez was not benched for pitch selection.. I thought that was interesting. I realize a couple of dozen people didn't, but what's the point of complaining about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    It's less noise than the posts criticizing him for posting it.

    Doug says Mez was not benched for pitch selection.. I thought that was interesting. I realize a couple of dozen people didn't, but what's the point of complaining about it.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Mesoraco

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    It's less noise than the posts criticizing him for posting it.

    Doug says Mez was not benched for pitch selection.. I thought that was interesting. I realize a couple of dozen people didn't, but what's the point of complaining about it.
    What's the point about complaining about the complaining?

    See what I did there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    It's not info if it doesn't inform, otherwise it's noise
    Ah, but it DID inform. It informed me that the rumor of Mes not getting along with the pitchers was bogus. I, for one, think Doug has earned the right around here to be taken seriously and to not be assumed to be one to post inaccurate info just to show that he's "in the know".

    But that's just how I took it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    What's the point about complaining about the complaining?

    See what I did there?
    I, for one, just like to talk about the complaining about the complaining. If that bothers anyone, feel free to complain about my talking about the complaining about the complaining. But I'm not complaining. I'm just into being "meta."
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    "Oh, I'm sorry, just one moment. Is this a five minute argument or the full half hour?"

    Sorry, this thread just made me think of that MP skit. :O)
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Ah, but it DID inform. It informed me that the rumor of Mes not getting along with the pitchers was bogus. I, for one, think Doug has earned the right around here to be taken seriously and to not be assumed to be one to post inaccurate info just to show that he's "in the know".

    But that's just how I took it.
    Maybe.

    Or doug's source just wanted to make Mesoraco feel better.

    Or he wanted to shine the prospect up for a chance of dealing him.

    Or he is Mesoraco.

    Or he's hitched his job wagon to Mesoraco becoming a star.

    Or he's the scout that watched/ signed Mesoraco and can't be objective.

    Without knowing the full extent (something doug is unwilling to do, with reason), you can't assume the source is telling you the truth.

    Hence, woy's comment about noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Maybe.

    Or doug's source just wanted to make Mesoraco feel better.

    Or he wanted to shine the prospect up for a chance of dealing him.

    Or he is Mesoraco.

    Or he's hitched his job wagon to Mesoraco becoming a star.

    Or he's the scout that watched/ signed Mesoraco and can't be objective.

    Without knowing the full extent (something doug is unwilling to do, with reason), you can't assume the source is telling you the truth.

    Hence, woy's comment about noise.
    Do you think Doug would cite a source with such a serious and obvious problem of credibility? I give him more credit than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    Maybe.

    Or doug's source just wanted to make Mesoraco feel better.

    Or he wanted to shine the prospect up for a chance of dealing him.

    Or he is Mesoraco.

    Or he's hitched his job wagon to Mesoraco becoming a star.

    Or he's the scout that watched/ signed Mesoraco and can't be objective.

    Without knowing the full extent (something doug is unwilling to do, with reason), you can't assume the source is telling you the truth.

    Hence, woy's comment about noise.
    Even if you knew the sources, you can't assume the source is telling you the truth unless you also witnessed said things, no?

    I feel comfortable assuming I know the truth at this point after having a few different people tell me the same story. I guess that they could have all gotten their story from the same place and that place was untrue, but given the sources, I doubt it. They just don't seem like connectable sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    What's the point about complaining about the complaining?

    See what I did there?
    Yea, you are so clever, recycling that line ..

    It's almost as clever as people jumping on Doug every time he talks about Mez's playing time without fulling disclosing everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Yea, you are so clever, recycling that line ..

    It's almost as clever as people jumping on Doug every time he talks about Mez's playing time without fulling disclosing everything.
    And there lies the problem, but hey I get it you are fine with it. So we all should be.

    Group think and all that

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    Re: Mesoraco

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Even if you knew the sources, you can't assume the source is telling you the truth unless you also witnessed said things, no?

    I feel comfortable assuming I know the truth at this point after having a few different people tell me the same story. I guess that they could have all gotten their story from the same place and that place was untrue, but given the sources, I doubt it. They just don't seem like connectable sources.
    wait, wait, wait...so, you're saying almost everybody knows but us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    And there lies the problem, but hey I get it you are fine with it. So we all should be.

    Group think and all that
    So basically you don't believe anything you read? About anything that you didn't witness yourself or see full video of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    So basically you don't believe anything you read? About anything that you didn't witness yourself or see full video of?
    I believe you keep trotting out your connection on this story without revealing anything more than you know something that we all don't. Yet we are supposed to take your word about it even though you can't mention anything (other than you're in the know and we aren't)

    That's what I keep reading,thus I must believe in something.

    But considering you aren't telling me anything; I certainly don't know what to believe other than you want us to all believe you without you actually telling us something.


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