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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I believe you keep trotting out your connection on this story without revealing anything more than you know something that we all don't. Yet we are supposed to take your word about it even though you can't mention anything (other than you're in the know and we aren't)

    That's what I keep reading,thus I must believe in something.

    But considering you aren't telling me anything; I certainly don't know what to believe other than you want us to all believe you without you actually telling us something.
    I have told "you" things. It just isn't what you want. I have said several times of things that it wasn't.

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    I like Doug's contributions, because he's familiar with the Reds minor leagues. But I also find him to be biased toward the Reds prospects since he covers them.

    He seems overly attached to them at times. For example, Zach Stewart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    I like Doug's contributions, because he's familiar with the Reds minor leagues. But I also find him to be biased toward the Reds prospects since he covers them.

    He seems overly attached to them at times. For example, Zach Stewart.
    That was what, 3.5 years ago? And I still don't think I was overly attached to him as much as I thought it was silly to pay the price the Reds did for a guy forcing his way out to a midwest team who needed a third baseman and the Reds were the only team at the time who fit that criteria.

    And let's be honest, at this point, who haven't I covered on the Reds team in the minor leagues? Arroyo. A few backups. Ludwick. Phillips. Marshall. Broxton. That is about it. I have been doing this minor league thing since some point in 2004.

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    Found myself in a position of holding some inside information about soccer stadium negotiations in the Boston area a while back. Wrestled with whether I should mention it on a fan forum. Decided not to say anything until I could say something definitive about the situation. Finally it reached a point where I could say what was happening and did, though I kept my connection to the information vague.

    What I find not particularly useful is the intimation that someone knows something, but not only can't they say how they know it, they can't even say what it is they know. If that's the case then my suggestion is to resist the urge to type about the situation until you can make a declarative statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Found myself in a position of holding some inside information about soccer stadium negotiations in the Boston area a while back. Wrestled with whether I should mention it on a fan forum. Decided not to say anything until I could say something definitive about the situation. Finally it reached a point where I could say what was happening and did, though I kept my connection to the information vague.

    What I find not particularly useful is the intimation that someone knows something, but not only can't they say how they know it, they can't even say what it is they know. If that's the case then my suggestion is to resist the urge to type about the situation until you can make a declarative statement.
    I thought Doug's statement was declarative -- he declared that another statement was "not true."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I thought Doug's statement was declarative -- he declared that another statement was "not true."
    My assessment as well. Has anybody ever considered the possibility that this might be personal information of Mez's. Heck, it might be embarrassing personal stuff. Not everything is for public consumption. He nipped a rumor in the bud by stating it wasn't true and he had solid knowledge on it. I give Doug props for not revealing info he was probably asked NOT to reveal or that may be improper to reveal. Much ado about nothing imo. Much like that Los Rojos thread spinning out of control. Spring training can't get here soon enough for this place. LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Much like that Los Rojos thread spinning out of control. Spring training can't get here soon enough for this place. LOL.
    I know, man. What a clown thread. I mean, chill OUT people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I thought Doug's statement was declarative -- he declared that another statement was "not true."
    My apologies then. I thought it involved an intimation about information that wasn't being presented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    My apologies then. I thought it involved an intimation about information that wasn't being presented.
    No apology necessary. I could be misremembering by now, but I recall that there was some question about Mes that was raised. While he wouldn't be specific, Doug said he had sources that had given him info that disproved that idea.
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    I thought the way the Reds used Mez last season was strange. I heard all the arguments that "he'll learn more on the bench in Cincy," but I don't see it. A catcher needs to play. If there is a problem with his game calling, then why not let him work on it at AAA? If there is a problem with his bat, why not give him 250 more AB's at AAA? Point is, if there is ANY element of his game that needs work, how will sitting on the bench help him?

    I guess I don't see the value of sitting the bench. If a top 25 prospect isn't ready to start at the major league level, shouldn't you keep him in the minors where he can play every day and reach the level where he can start at the major league level? As far as I am concerned, they wasted a year of Mez's development in 2012.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    But considering you aren't telling me anything; I certainly don't know what to believe other than you want us to all believe you without you actually telling us something.
    And you think the entire board needs to know this every time Doug speaks?



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    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    And you think the entire board needs to know this every time Doug speaks?



    Thank you, mighty WOY, for keeping us informed every time a post doesn't meet your high standards.
    Sure anytime, smooches back at you Redread.

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    Stop making it personal, guys.
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    .248, 3 HR's, .720 OPS, playing more games than Hanigan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    .248, 3 HR's, .720 OPS, playing more games than Hanigan.
    If we are bringing Hanigan into this why not post his beautiful line?


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